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« on: June 23, 2011, 06:20:26 PM »

What exactly are the right wing parties in Argentina because besides the PRO all of the major ones according to wikipedia are either center or center-left?
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 07:51:55 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2011, 03:45:48 PM by SayNotoJonHuntsman »

After reading more into the economic crisis of 2001-2002, I can see why there isn't much support for the right considering how much of a failure Menem's policies were as president (How did the guy seriously call himself a Peronist?). Both Kirchners deserve credit for stabilizing the country.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 10:08:26 PM »

This post may be considered as trolling Tongue, but....

who is this Boudou ?

He looks like a football coach !!! (and believe me, in my mouth, that's hugely contemptuous Grin)
his hair, his facial hair, his nose, his wrinkles, his stupid eyes, even his tie knot !!!
he doesn't look credible at all !

Well, now that I'm calmer Wink, my question is: where does he come from ?

He's her economic minister who gets a lot of good press for the economic growth the country has been going through. I've never really thought of the football coach comparison before, but I think his good looks are a way for Kirchner to appeal to female voters.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2011, 08:01:40 PM »

What is his background ? Where does he come from ?
I saw on Wikipedia that he is a salesman.
This guy seems simply mediocre.

In France, a former judoka as clever as a cow is a junior minister (since yesterday)... everything is of course possible Grin.

He was, but his political experience seems very extensive. Edu probably knows more about him than I do, but I would say it was a pretty good pick for Krichner considering she probably wanted her vp to be someone she could groom to take over when she leaves the presidency in 2015 (if she's reelected of course Smiley .)
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2011, 10:52:08 PM »
« Edited: July 01, 2011, 10:55:47 PM by SayNotoJonHuntsman »

Menem is doing same game that Collor and Sarney in Brazil. They give support to government and they got government support and popularity in return in their poor provinces.

Why aren't Menem and Collor in prison right now? Weren't there notorious corruption charges against both?
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 03:49:00 PM »

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/uk-argentina-election-poll-idUKTRE7660BC20110707

It seems Alfonsin is getting a boost in the polls and is now at about 23%. Plus what's up with his alliance with de Narvaez? Is he the PRO's candidate of choice?
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 09:37:55 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2011, 01:02:44 AM by SayNotoJonHuntsman »

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/uk-argentina-election-poll-idUKTRE7660BC20110707

It seems Alfonsin is getting a boost in the polls and is now at about 23%. Plus what's up with his alliance with de Narvaez? Is he the PRO's candidate of choice?

Yep, the general feeling right now is that Alfonsín is the candidate that will finish 2nd. I thought he was going to tank but apparently a big chunk of the opposition is tired with so many peronists and the right wing voters apparently prefer him over Duhalde.
Binner's campaign has been pretty bad so far, people hardly knew him a few weeks ago and now...they still don't know him. I think he's going to improve a little on his polls but i haven't seen him do anything of note in the past 2 weeks.
Duhalde has also been pretty lame and is rapidly fading into obscurity.


As for the Alfonsín-De Narvaez-PRO thing, well it's a bit complicated. First off, you don't have to get confused thinking that Francisco de Narvaez is a member of the PRO, because he isn't. He is (or was) part of the "federal peronism" which are the right wing peronists and was just in an alliance with Macri 2 years ago called "Union PRO" but since then they have splitted.
De Narvaez did make an alliance with Alfonsín who supports him for governor of the province of Buenos Aires, but until a few days ago the PRO was going to field their own candidate for governor. Jorge Macri (Mauricio's cousin and current vicepresident of the lower house in the provincial parliament) was going to run but didn't, probably because of 2 factors. the first one is that he was obviously going to lose epically and the people on the right complained that he was just going to take votes away from De narvaez who has more of a shot. Also, PRO negotiations with Alfonsin, Alberto Rodriguez Saa and Duhalde to form an alliance with one of them failed miserably. So for now the PRO in the province isn't going to field candidates for congress or for the governorship and won't be endorsing or allying with anyone.

Jorge Macri is going to run for mayor of Vicente Lopez though (one of the most affluent districts in the province).

That's interesting, so does the UCR have a good chance of making a lot of ground in Buenos Aires since the PRO has traditionally been strong there?
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2011, 09:59:34 PM »

Do you know where there are official results for the city legislature and communes?
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2011, 10:40:33 PM »

Will there be a run-off in Santa Fe is no one has a majority of the votes?
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2011, 04:59:54 PM »

Yeah perhaps changing the title would get more people to comment. Have there been any recent presidential polls taken?
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 08:47:24 PM »

Thanks for the information Edu! Do you know who the candidates for governor in Cordoba are?
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2011, 10:44:51 PM »

I'm hoping the second option wins. CFK's governing style has been very autocratic recently, and the opposition needs all the boost it can get to defeat her.
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 09:56:03 PM »

Well I will be sure to post something. Hopefully other people do too. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2011, 03:48:05 PM »

Someone really needs to drop out after today and allow the opposition to coalesce around a candidate. The vote splitting is ridiculous. Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2011, 09:36:53 PM »

I think this is more of a reflection of the opposition being split than CFK being unbeatable. Buenos Aires certainly isn't going to vote for her in Fall.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2011, 09:41:08 PM »

Why did Clarin decide to add the Malvinas/Falklands to their election results map?

http://www.clarin.com/eleccionesprimarias.html
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 01:46:24 AM »

So is there basically no chance she won't win now, or is it possible for a Presidential front runner to under perform their primary result totals? I know she under performed in some provinces, but her vote total went up in comparison to 2007's primaries. Also is there a website with info about the popular vote totals for legislative candidates for each political party?
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2011, 03:43:38 PM »

I don't like this election so much. Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2011, 06:01:40 PM »

We won't have official results till 9:30 but apparently Cristina did better than in the primaries which would probably mean she'll get the 4th highest percentage in our history after Peron in 1951, Yrigoyen in 1928 (though women didn't vote then) and Peron in 1973.
Probably close with Peron in 1946.

Didn't Peron get close to 60% in 46?
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2011, 06:27:58 PM »

BTW, why didn't the opposition try and run a unity candidate? It could have cut down on CFK's margin, and limited losses in Congress.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2011, 12:21:50 AM »

Why is Carrio so unpopular?
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2011, 01:48:45 AM »

Nice results. CFK wins and Binner has a respectable %.
everybody in the left should be happy Smiley
I will be, if the two persons are reversed. Grin

Why? CFK seems to be much more left wing than Binner. She has gone after big business very strongly, and has attacked the Argentinian media for its monopoly ownership. Binner is actually slightly more moderate than her, and received heavy support from the middle and upper classes. 
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