SENATE BILL: End to Imperialism Act (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: Napoleon

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ah, remember when we used to talk about the Iraq war and Imperialism in the same thread. Those certainly were the days, weren't they? I trust this nostalgic Libertasian experience shall be of the upmost fun.

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A vote is open on the Motion to Table the "End to Imperialism Act". Senator's please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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Just to officialize this, and because I am uncomfortable doing this any other way, Senators have 24 hours to object starting on the 23rd at 8:17 pm and ending on the 24th at 8:17 pm. The bill has thenceforth been amended. Senators have 72 hours to object to this dereliction of the OSPR (Not really, since Snowguy used to let sponsor amendments through without any procedure at all).

 

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Senators have 24 hours to object to the sponsor originated Amendment

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Final votes are out of order when an amendment is under consideration.

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Senators have 24 hours to object to the sponsor originated Amendment

With no objection in the 24 hours following the posting of this, Amendment 44:13 has passed.

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Are we moving forward with this bill?

Also.. why is the original post not updated to reflect the passed amendments?  I'm pretty sure the bill should indicate withdrawing funds from troop involvement, and not simple withdrawl of troops.

I have never updated OPs, save for the subject line in the OP to change the heading of the thread. As such why are you suprised to not see it so?

Because the debate carried over to next page, I forgot to announce that the amendment had passed. Normally when I make such a declaration of passage, I post the updated text.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Are we moving forward with this bill?

Also.. why is the original post not updated to reflect the passed amendments?  I'm pretty sure the bill should indicate withdrawing funds from troop involvement, and not simple withdrawl of troops.

I have never updated OPs, save for the subject line in the OP to change the heading of the thread. As such why are you suprised to not see it so?

Because the debate carried over to next page, I forgot to announce that the amendment had passed. Normally when I make such a declaration of passage, I post the updated text.

I always thought you did... which is why I always did.  It wouldn't hurt   I mean.. it's not like you're overworked or anything

I never have. Never noticed, BK, MJ, or MB doing it, but I may be wrong on one or two of them.

I considered it, since you did it, but I figured it might encourage Senators to follow the threads more closely if I didn't.

I did keep your improvements to the Noticeboard though, as well as the practice of putting "SENATE BILL:" in front of bill titles in the subject line. Just in case you hadn't noticed.

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Okay, I now see what I did and why.

The reason I didn't move forward before, was because of shua's objection to the amendment on the grounds of the lack of authorization for the Libyan intervention, and I didn't want to start a vote on an amendment that seem likely to be withdrawn/modified, at the time.

The last word from the sponsor of this amendment and the underlying bill was that he was "weighing options".


So forgot everything I said yesterday on this bill procedure wise and in terms of Senate procedure.

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A MORE ACCURATE STATUS OF THE BILL:

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Pending Amendments

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Sponsor Feedback: Origination
Objection: Yes (shua)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is there to be a correction of the terminology regarding Libya or do we begin a vote on the current text of Amendment 44:13?

I'd hate to start a vote and then be in need of stopping it like that Amendment on the Smoking bill I think was (Whichever one BK stopped by declaring it frivolous and impractical).

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Napoleon? I need a response on that.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Good point, the use of the word "authorized" refers to the funding for such actions, not the authorization of the action itself.

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Considering that the only objection raised during that 24 hours has been removed, the amendment 44:13 is considered to have passed:

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Sponsor Feedback: Pending

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Senators have 24 hours to object to this amendment.

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The amendment has passed.


Are we done here?

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No responses by tomorrow will lead to a final vote being initiated.

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I was referring to the sponsor, or atleast a Senator, just in case you thought I was prodding you Mr. President.


As it stands right now, I think the President has a good handle on a way to responsibly draw the conflicts to a close and thus at this point, I plan to vote no on the bill and to uphold a veto if necessary.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We have had responses from several people and it doesn't appear that any further movement will be engaged in regarding modifications or compromise. Therefore, shall I bring this to a vote or is there more going on here then meets the eye?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Finally.


A vote is now open on the motion for cloture of debate and proceed immediately to a final vote, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain. This will require 2/3rd's support of the entire Senate to pass.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

"We're going up, We're going down.
We're going up, down, down, up
anyway you want me to go.
Yea, yea yea.
You got me doing what you want me,
oh baby what do you want me to do?
You got me doing what you want me,
oh baby what do you want me to do?"

Not as good as Elvis, but it will do.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nay.


I am not sure if I can do this, this soon, but this has failed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We debate hasn't continued here.

One more day, and I shalln't answer for the consequences for this bill.