SENATE BILL: Prison Reform Act of 2013 (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: jdb apparently. Averroës Nix TNF

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This is the work of Clarence and Matt and is the fruition of the energy that was exhibited for this issue on the part of the former way back in the debates for that special election some months ago.

I have not gone over this with a fine tooth comb, though and would have to rely on one or both of them to answer to any details pertaining to those matters.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I'll assume sponsorship of the Prison Reform Act of 2013 due to Senator MattFromVT's defeat.

Just notice this on scanning through the Introduction Thread.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ah, when is that later going to be X? Also, does the SoIA have anything to contribute at this time.

I would like to see some answers to the questions posed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Any Senator may motion to accept sponsorship within the next 72 hours or the bill will be canned.

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Senators have 48 hours to object to motion to accept sponsorship.

Just be mindfull Nix, that the Common Market is close to being on the floor and I don't remember if you have anything else before it in the queue, lest you hit the anti-clogging rule. There is a good possibilty that Duke might be bringing that up in the FP slot when it comes open.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Thanks for the warning, Yankee. With luck, Clarence's CURE Act will be off the Senate floor soon enough that I don't trigger the anti-clogging provision before a slot is ready for the Common Market Agreement. I'd defer to another Senator on this, but there doesn't seem to be any interest, and this bill is too important to me to let it fall through.

I'll be introducing an amendment shortly based on my earlier criticism and several additional points raised by Senate candidate TNF in this extremely detailed post.

Technically those bills like the Cure Act are supposed to be trashed when the Senator leaves if they haven't yet reached the floor, but that can wreck a bill that has been waiting in the queue for a while. If it is important and no one has said so previously, I take it and put it in the floor as one of mine. I hold back saying so though in case no one is interested in then I can just pull a BK and trash it for lack of a sponsor (an "illegally introduced bill"). Anyway, that is how I circumvent the OSPR on bills of Senators that depart from out midst.

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Yes, this is a bit jumping the gun here since Nix isn't sponsor yet technically.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment is adopted and Nix is now sponsor.

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I hope these don't contradict each other.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amendments 50:19 and 50:20 have been adopted.

I am having trouble "feeling" the vibes of the two comments here if that makes sense so if I am mistake I apologize. I think there might be room for negotiation and since I rushed the first two, I will give exactly one day before I bring 50:21 to vote, but just one. If 24 hours have exclipsed and amendment is not forthcomming, I want Duke or Ben to open a vote here on 55:21 if I have not.

We got more storms coming.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am starting a vote in ten minutes here on the amendment in question in just ten minutes or so.

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Status: Objection filed by Senator MaxQue, a vote is now open on the above amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Could the Senator provide some examples of where obstruction of Justice has been missapplied?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I haven't the slightest idea why I should vote one way or the other here.

AYE

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Someone better start talking here, because poor Duke is going to have settle this tomorrow if no one else has voted by then, and he will probably be just as unsure about which way to vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on amendment 55:21:

Aye (4): Αverroës Nix, Ben, Gass3268, and NC Yankee
Nay (4): Kalwejt, MaxQue, Napoleon and Snowstalker
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): HagridoftheDeep and sbane

With four votes in the affirmative and four in the negative with twon ot voting, the amendment vote is tied. The VP shall break the tie.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

DUKE, YOU AINT IN A FLORIDA RETIREMENT YET!!! GET BACK HERE!!!!

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That is the closest approximation of what he is desiring. This is what is known as a the laziest of lazy amendments by the way and basically leaves it up to the PPT to effect the desired changes. Since iti s a by the desire an amendment consisting of instructions to be effected on the text, the more vague one is the more risk their is of something other than what you want being done as well. Just something to consider about this practice. For instance Nappy said, "remove "X" from text". That can be interpreted as striking just that word or striking as much as a section devoted to what X is.

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Status: A vote is now open on the above amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If the amendment passes, I will only remove Obstruction of Justice, and any subpoints connected to it, if any.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NAY


Vote on Amendment 55:29 by Napoleon:

Aye (1): Napoleon
Nay (6): Αverroës Nix, Ben, Gass3268, HagridoftheDeep, MaxQue, and NC Yankee
Abstain (1): Snowstalker

Didn't Vote (2): Kalwejt and sbane

With six vote in the negative, the amendment has been rejected.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I object to the refering to previous text as "editorialized", I was attempting to make it as generic boilerplate as possible. When you don't compose your own text though, you run the risk of it getting garbled. The amendment was basically a set of instructions to do something to the text, as opposed to doing it directly like most amendments. There is nothing wrong with that obviously and in this case there were no "related items" anyway. I didn't have the text in front of me when I composed it, hency why I was more generic then was necessary in this case.

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Napoleon edited his post after I filed the motion. There were no amendments pending when I moved for cloture.

If cloture fails, both amendments are hostile. I will not support taking away the right of the regions to set a lower maximum sentence, and we've essentially voted on the second amendment twice already.

What was in his post then before if not amendments, if they were edited in afterwards?


I have no way of verifying one way or the other unless there is a screen shot or something.