SENATE BILL: Success in Federal-Regional Correspondence Act (Law'd)

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Also the same thing here. I ask UC on both minimum debate time and cloture requirements, Senators have 24 hours to object.

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I plan to offer an amendment to incorporate Regional Senators into this. This would put a lot of load onto the SoIA as I see it, though certainly the SoIA has a lead role by design in such interactions.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Why not also include the regional senator? Or ask the regional senator to do this instead of the SoIA? By being a regional senator, shouldn't you sometimes be in touch with your region? Yes? Not everyone is allowed to lose touch like me.

     Speaking as someone who would benefit from the passage of this bill, I'm happy with whomever tells me. The important thing is that people are clear on their responsibilities here. If we say that the Secretary of Internal Affairs or the regional Senator can do it, then the risk is that neither one does it because each thought the other would.

My approach was going to have a clear order of priority. Whereby either 1) THe Regional Senator does it and the SoIA verified/polices such actions afterwards or 2) The SoIA does it primarily but may explicity direct the Regional Senator to do it, with verification afterwards. Either way, we would seek to ensure that someone had it done in such a mixed scenario.

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Is it wise to designate the Regional legislature thread? Whati f there isn't just one, or if a Region were to abolish their legislature at some point?

Perhaps it would be better to state "the thread of of the Region's executive authority, or in a thread designated by said region's statute"?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

SoIA or regional senators is fine with me. Would the regional senators have an issue with being given this responsibility? Either way, I do agree we need to make it one or the other so responsibilities are not confused.

Why must you be so declarative on subsequent reponses to my post, that I have yet to have a chance to respond to myself?

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

SoIA or regional senators is fine with me. Would the regional senators have an issue with being given this responsibility? Either way, I do agree we need to make it one or the other so responsibilities are not confused.

Why must you be so declarative on subsequent reponses to my post, that I have yet to have a chance to respond to myself?

Because a) I sometimes don't pay attention and b) it took you too long to respond and I am notoriously impatient.

And yes, let's make it in the regional executive's thread.

If I am not online at the time I cannot respond and I am only one for one set period of the day usually.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It is more accountabiltiy then the SoIA would have in any case.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amendment 59:52 by shua is adopted.

I am okay with having to do this. But will the Senate (PPT probably) notify the SoIA that a law has been passed that requires this action?

I would, but I cannot speak for my successors.

Also, wouldn't it be more effective, if we are trying to get communication going to have the President notify the SoIA. We seem to think bills end with the PPT, but the man in the big ugly house gets them at the very end, has to read and then sign them. I inform the White house when a bill comes up needing "executive action" and the SoIA is part of the executive branch. The President, as head of such, should thus give directives to his people on how to react once legislation is passed.

Frankly communication within the exeuctive branch has been an area that has lagged as well. Placing the expectation on the President would necessitate such to be improved.

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If there are no consequences (though it's difficult to see what they would be in any event) then this bill is pointless and would, IMO, just be clogging up the statue book. Of course we all agree that regions should be informed of legislation impacting them, but I don't think mandating it, in this way, serves any purpose.

How often do you communicate with Governor Sirnick?

The same goes for Senators Tyrion, TNF and DC for their regional executives?

I try to do it once a week, sending a review of all bills.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amendment 59:54 has been adopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It's fine if we ask the president to make some sort of statement in his signing that it should be passed along to the regions, but I wouldn't really think offloading the responsibility to tell the senators to tell the regions is necessary. It seems like one step too many. The regional senators should pay enough attention to notify themselves, not reply on the president to tell them.

I am beginning to agree with the others that say that without teeth, this bill really isn't necessary. It is almost like passing a bill that requires the president to sign bills.

I think you misread what I said. Wht I meant was that instead of making the PPT inform the SoIA as was recommended earlier, the President should inform the SoIA to carry out legislative directives as he is expected to be in communication with all his cabinet members with regards to the implementing of legislation as well you know the executive branch which you run is in charge of doing.

Now you are making declarative statements about stuff I didn't even say.

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Amendment 59:63 has been adopted

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I just don't see all of this as necessary. The regional senators should inform the appropriate people without the president telling the SoIA and then the SoIA telling the regional senators. Maybe it's just me though.

The SoIA isn't going to be telling the Regional Seantors. The SoIA will assist with technical aspects and ensure that the job is done at the end.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amendment 59:64 has been adopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The enforcement issues seems to be the one that still keeps people unsure about tihs.

Is there a reasonable and legal enforcement mechanism available to provide some teeth for this?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Seeing no objections to my motion (see second post in thread), A Final Vote is now open on the underlying legislation, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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AYE

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This has enough votes to pass. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

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Vote on Final Passage of the Success in Federal-Regional Correspondence Act:

Aye (7): DC Al Fine, Mr. X, NC Yankee, shua, Tmthforu94, TNF and TyriontheImperialist
Nay (3): bore, Goldwater, and Talleyrand
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

With seven votes in the affiramtive the underlying legislation has been adopted.

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