Affirmative Consent in Post-Secondary Education Act of 2015 (Final vote)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

     Also not a Senator, but I would like to say that...

This is the people's Senate. Those bastards work for you, there is no need to apologize for speaking your piece on the Senate floor. Senators legislate by voting in accordance with the majority rules, but the people still possess free speech rights and this has always been an open forum, a precedent Windjammer continues to uphold.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

 Something that I plan to do for my region in my capacity as a Legislator,

So far the best words spoken so far in this debate.

1. The proposal itself is unworkable at every level.

2. The primary repository for addressing related matters be it crime reporting or what not should be at the regional level.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yankee pls go

You gonna fetch that guy that can stop me? I beleive he is called Mr. McDoesn'tExist? I don't post on every thread, only those that interest me. Its also not like I am the only candidate of the second largest party in Atlasia for At-Large Senate presently, and thus stand a pretty good chance of being your colleague in three weeks... I cannot wait, Comrade TNF.

There is a thread in the main page to present views and formal submissions

Main Page? The AFE board is not the main page. The AFE board is the board where the elections game aspect of Atlasia is conducted.

The purpose of said thread's creation was to provide a vehicle for greater interest in the Senate's discourse, not to compartmentalize and cast aside the opinions of private citizens to that they can be ignored by the Senate. This place has a long history of being out of touch on a variety of issues, the most recent example being the previous Amendment ratification. Suppressing public interest and input is not in the chamber's best interests.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Citizens, especially if what they are posting is relevant and new information (a past bill or costs or a positive proposed amendment) are to be encouraged, but that does not go as far as people posting on every thread or just vague opinions (I think taxes are bad, say).

Neither of which applies to my postings by the way. Of course the former is highly subjective, I would consider the regional viewpoint I expressed to be one of great relevance and few had mentioned it.

There is a thread in the main page to present views and formal submissions

Main Page? The AFE board is not the main page. The AFE board is the board where the elections game aspect of Atlasia is conducted.

The purpose of said thread's creation was to provide a vehicle for greater interest in the Senate's discourse, not to compartmentalize and cast aside the opinions of private citizens to that they can be ignored by the Senate. This place has a long history of being out of touch on a variety of issues, the most recent example being the previous Amendment ratification. Suppressing public interest and input is not in the chamber's best interests.

     The issue is that while people take issue with the Senate for pushing some ridiculous ideas, there are never any consequences. The same folks keep winning easily. Something has to change with that.

Yankee - your stands are adorable but the purpose of the thread was not just to increase exposure, but a way to have the clearest avenue for input to Bills.

I did not vote to put the people in a broom closet, Senator. This is their chamber and they have the right to speak their piece as long as it is on topic, which I would point out was entirely so with this thread until, you, TNF and bore felt it necessary to challenge my response to PiT.

If I may direct my fellow Senators and other citizens back towards the debate of this bill?

Nothing would make me happier then to end this silly discussion of silencing the people.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It's difficult to know how to address the issue. I don't know how right I am in saying this, but I think part of the problem is just with the ambiguity of the act itself. If a person feels violated after a sexual experience, it's not my place to question their feelings or render them moot. But feeling violated after the fact (or during the fact) is not necessarily enough to make the participating partner guilty of anything, especially if consent was implied. Affirmative consent seems like an easy way to solve the problem, but the truth is, that's not how intimacy works, and it's not the job of the government to tell people how to have sex. And since that's an overarching principle I really can't justify straying from, I'm struggling to find a better way to deal with the problem of rape. I might have to resign myself to the fact that current laws are adequate and find some solace in the fact that the solution might rest with education outreach instead.

I mean, I just don't know. None of us "likes" rape. How do we stop it without creating more problems?

Why not transform the bill into an educational piece? Certainly that would be a much more achievable approach then "may I" being a legal requirement at every step and probably result in more success as well.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE