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« on: December 26, 2017, 10:03:58 PM »
« edited: February 07, 2018, 07:38:53 PM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

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2. Renumbers all appropriate Sections of SB-2017 to account for this change.[/quote]

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Sponsor: Peebs for Ted
House Designation: HB 1182
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 12:08:58 AM »

Would this gives justices the power to theoretically ask for PMs?

I was going to ask a moderator so I could amend this to reflect site policies if necessary, but some things came up -- I'll explain the weirdness of the physical evidence situation tomorrow. Tongue

Okay,

Short answer: The Presiding Judge in a trial would be able to issue subpoenas at their discretion, or at the behest of counsel. So, yes and no. Subpoenas of PMs would be pretty tough to enforce, for obvious reasons, but I see no reason that private forwarding of messages could not be used to comply with site policy in lieu of public postings.

I am somewhat concerned that requiring the forwarding of PMs might be a TOS violation or at the very least something that the forum administration would be dubious about. I think we should consult with them on that aspect.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 01:18:06 AM »

Would this gives justices the power to theoretically ask for PMs?

I was going to ask a moderator so I could amend this to reflect site policies if necessary, but some things came up -- I'll explain the weirdness of the physical evidence situation tomorrow. Tongue

Okay,

Short answer: The Presiding Judge in a trial would be able to issue subpoenas at their discretion, or at the behest of counsel. So, yes and no. Subpoenas of PMs would be pretty tough to enforce, for obvious reasons, but I see no reason that private forwarding of messages could not be used to comply with site policy in lieu of public postings.

I am somewhat concerned that requiring the forwarding of PMs might be a TOS violation or at the very least something that the forum administration would be dubious about. I think we should consult with them on that aspect.

I’m a step ahead of you — contacted a mod about it a few days ago. They’re currently hashing it out in the cave, but even if it is a problem, we can just amend the bill to reflect that.

Interesting, but we really cannot proceed until we receive feedback, at least on that aspect.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 09:11:43 PM »

What is the latest on that moderator feedback?
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 12:05:12 AM »

I agree with Oakvale that we should not move forward with tabling at this stage. I think at most we should strip the section in question, but before that I would look at potential ways to restructure it to comply with the TOS.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 12:07:02 AM »

What would happen if one did not disclose the required information if a subpoena was ordered?

We have always seem to have lapses in the statute when it comes to defining a sentence for contempt of court.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 11:34:33 PM »

(On a side note, having a real State Representative respond to my inquiries about fake policymaking is probably the high point of my time on Atlas thus far Tongue)

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 11:35:19 PM »

It would probably be Sunder before i could compose something. So if anyone else wants to go ahead today, you are more than welcome to.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2018, 04:08:24 AM »

Sponsor Feedback?
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2018, 04:38:40 AM »

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2. Renumbers all appropriate Sections of SB-2017 to account for this change.[/quote]

Sponsor Feedback: Pending
Status: Awaiting Feedback

Noting the long history none forth coming feedback from this particular bill sponsor, I have contacted the sponsor directly to get their attention.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 01:36:50 PM »

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2. Renumbers all appropriate Sections of SB-2017 to account for this change.[/quote]

Sponsor Feedback: None Given
Status: A vote is now open on the above Amendment, Representatives vote Aye, Nay or Abstain
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2018, 01:37:18 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2018, 12:37:53 AM »

This vote ends today.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2018, 12:30:23 PM »

Vote on Amendment H10:04:

Aye (4): LousivilleThunder, NC Yankee, Oakvale, and Rfayette
Nay (2): 1184AZ, WxTransit
Abstain (1): ReaganClinton20xx

Didn't Vote (1): Peebs
Vacant Seats (1): Illiniwek

The amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2018, 12:03:36 AM »

Are we ready to proceed here?
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2018, 01:22:51 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2018, 07:38:32 PM »

Vote on Final Passage of the Atlasian Evidentialy Disclosure Act:


Aye (6): 1184AZ, Jake, Leinad, NC Yankee, Oakvale and Peebs
Nay (2): Rfayette and Wxtransit
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): RC?

With six votes in the affirmative, this bill is passed and is sent to the VP/PPT.
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2018, 07:40:33 PM »

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2. Renumbers all appropriate Sections of SB-2017 to account for this change.[/quote]

Atlasian People's House of Representatives
Passed 6-2 in the Atlasian House,

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