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« on: January 10, 2018, 12:34:56 AM »
« edited: February 06, 2018, 01:33:57 AM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 11:57:05 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2018, 11:59:00 PM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

This seems like one of these great ideas in theory that sadly just gets forgotten and ignored in a few months of being implemented. As we have seen with offices such as the National archivist they have a tendency to go inactive with no action from congress to force the appointed official to be active.  We have seen many candidates be able to organize debates on their own such as the Fed primary, past presidential elections. I am also not sure why we need an officially sanctioned organization couldn’t someone independently just work with candidates to organize debates on their own.  

I understand your concerns, however, time and time again debates are not organized independently outside of presidential election debates. The Federalist Party debate is a very rare example. The goal of this bill is to codify a regularly occurring debate system to get more Atlasians informed on the issues and the party stances. And with the visible office of GM as the leader of the proposed IDC, it would not go the same way of National Archivist or approvals will plummet.

And I will take action in Congress if this doesn't get followed through with, once implemented.

The biggest reason that this wouldn't get followed through would be a lapse or a change in staff in the GM department.

I generally like this, a lot of times there have been situations where other people have attempted to define our party in ways that are completely wrong, or have outright stolen our material and then claimed we were against those things. Therefore i am particularly interested in the forum of the party leaders.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2018, 04:36:36 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2018, 04:36:57 AM »

I oppose this bill.

While I recognise the good intentions behind such legislation, the fact is we've a terrible habit in this country of attempting to solve problems by creating offices. Look no further than the ludicrous position of the National Archivist, where the current incumbent is being impeached for gross inactivity - who'd have seen that coming?

All too often we think of inactivity as a moral failing - it's not. It's a rational response to incentives.  It may well be that we get lucky and end up with an active Debate Moderator. Far more likely we end up with an entirely inactive office because no one has any real incentive to do this job.

This would be an expansion of the government for very little reward.

I agree that more debates is, in general, a good thing - but I don't see why this couldn't be left to the private sector. I'd encourage the various independent news organisations to get together and form a debate commission. That would be healthy. A formal government role? I'm not convinced.

Am I to interpret this as an objection to the amendment as well?
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2018, 12:00:28 PM »

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Status: Objection filed by Oakvale. A vote is now open on the above amendment, Representatives please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 01:33:23 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 12:35:46 AM »

Vote on Amendment H10:03:

Aye (5): 1184AZ, NC Yankee, LouisvilleThunder, ReaganClinton20xx, and Wxtransit
Nay (1): Oakvale
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): Rfayette and Peebs
Vacant Seats (1): Illiniwek

The amendment has been adopted.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2018, 02:20:06 PM »

I am going to treat Transit's post as a call for a final vote. Representatives have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 12:00:46 AM »

A final vote is now open on this legislation, Representatives please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2018, 05:03:59 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2018, 02:59:42 AM »

Extending this until a quorum can be reached.


Pathetic turnout!!!
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 01:33:40 AM »

Just a minor correction, the linked vote count is missing. Corrected here:

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Sponsor: Wxtransit
House Designation: HB 1185
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