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  Which of the two preceding posters likes Obama more? (search mode)
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« on: May 15, 2011, 08:01:33 PM »

Tough call, but 20RP12 because at least his social policy mirrors Obama's (I think).

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You're a social liberal, aren't you?

Libertarian.

You do understand that means you're socially liberal?

Not technically the same thing. Social libertarians and social liberals usually disagree on a number of issues, eg gun rights/control, hate crimes, preference for issues to be solved a federal vs. state level (ie gay marriage often, abortion sometimes), affirmative action, addressing global warming/climate change, etc. They come from different places philosophically as well, to the extent that social liberalism has a philosophy, that is.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2011, 08:10:17 PM »

Tough call, but 20RP12 because at least his social policy mirrors Obama's (I think).

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You're a social liberal, aren't you?

Libertarian.

You do understand that means you're socially liberal?

Not technically the same thing. Social libertarians and social liberals usually disagree on a number of issues, eg gun rights/control, hate crimes, preference for issues to be solved a federal vs. state level (ie gay marriage often, abortion sometimes), affirmative action, addressing global warming/climate change, etc. They come from different places philosophically as well, to the extent that social liberalism has a philosophy, that is.

No, no.  Disagreeing with far left social liberalism does not mean you are not socially liberal.   If he is libertarian, he is socially liberal in spectrum; even if some issues are not full on left.

If you choose to view it only as a left-right thing, fine, but it's an oversimplification that hides the fact that they come from different places philosophically. Extreme social liberalism and extreme social libertarianism will end you up in two different places, though there are a lot of similarities between the two concepts.
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