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« on: February 17, 2017, 01:46:11 PM »

No, just no

communism sounds nice in theory...fascism doesn't.

Plenty of things about fascism sound great in theory. Societal order and cohesion, scientific advancement with unified goals, lack of political gridlock and dysfunction, high levels of societal efficiency, business interests made to serve the common good, high levels of communal care for the poor, very little unemployment, etc.

The bad parts of fascism come about in the means... just like in communism.

How is this any worse than saying communism sounds great in theory?
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2017, 08:52:50 PM »

No, just no

communism sounds nice in theory...fascism doesn't.

Plenty of things about fascism sound great in theory. Societal order and cohesion, scientific advancement with unified goals, lack of political gridlock and dysfunction, high levels of societal efficiency, business interests made to serve the common good, high levels of communal care for the poor, very little unemployment, etc.

The bad parts of fascism come about in the means... just like in communism.

How is this any worse than saying communism sounds great in theory?

It doesn't. They're both garbage ideologies with zero value that need to be completely annihilated.

It wasn't the point. Praising things such as "cohesion" in fascism as even "theoretically" good is... eh.

As a side note, though, I know it's hard to comprehend for an American, but I'm unable to put communism at the same level with fascism. At least communists, while sucking really bad, didn't plan on annihilating my people and my culture.

To put it bluntly, fascism "in theory" is inherently racist. Communism isn't.

Only Nazism was especially racist. Italian fascism had racial tenets but wasn't built around racial lines. Spanish fascism didn't really have much to do with race.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 01:46:44 PM »

No, just no

communism sounds nice in theory...fascism doesn't.

Plenty of things about fascism sound great in theory. Societal order and cohesion, scientific advancement with unified goals, lack of political gridlock and dysfunction, high levels of societal efficiency, business interests made to serve the common good, high levels of communal care for the poor, very little unemployment, etc.

The bad parts of fascism come about in the means... just like in communism.

How is this any worse than saying communism sounds great in theory?

It doesn't. They're both garbage ideologies with zero value that need to be completely annihilated.

It wasn't the point. Praising things such as "cohesion" in fascism as even "theoretically" good is... eh.

As a side note, though, I know it's hard to comprehend for an American, but I'm unable to put communism at the same level with fascism. At least communists, while sucking really bad, didn't plan on annihilating my people and my culture.

To put it bluntly, fascism "in theory" is inherently racist. Communism isn't.

Only Nazism was especially racist. Italian fascism had racial tenets but wasn't built around racial lines. Spanish fascism didn't really have much to do with race.

How about explaining why I'm wrong rather than just quoting me here? AFAIK most forms of fascism were built around nationalist lines rather than racial lines, though overlap exists there, obviously.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2017, 12:28:38 PM »

evergreen's response wasn't much better.
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