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Matt Damon™
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« on: December 27, 2008, 09:20:24 PM »

As Mexico comes apart due to PEMEX mismanagement of oil discovieries and the world becoming slowly less reliant on oil, Mexico falls apart with most of the people fleeing here and we more or less inherit it, adding 25 or so states. Grabbing mexico changes US politics and culture forever.

America will be a fusion culture. To anyone living in Miami or greater LA this would be recognizable but it's not the culture of the puritan fathers or even that of 1950s America. America has bilingual zones and rare spanish-only enclaves but even the english spoken is altered.

The odds are that at least one of the following joins the US: Any of the central american states, any of the non-european caribbean islands, Guyana, Cape Verde, Phillippines. Most likely are guyana and cape verde with the Phillippines a bit behind and the rest behind those 3.

We're still a 2 party system in practice but the 2 parties's coalitions will not resemble ours since it's close to 2 realignments away.

The US will still be number 1 but less obviously so. Brazil, The EU and less likely Japan as other great powers. India and China are too populous and poor to really get their acts together anytime soon.

Europe will be openly hostile to islam and have reversed the post-1960s immigration changes to their culture/society. The US will be the relative center of cultural liberalism and Europe/the colonial anglosphere will be the center of militant rightism.

Canada is an EU member and NAFTA long dead.

Open anti-semitism will return due to 1945 being ever further in the past with each year. Anti-muslim feeling will be present in the west.There will be few or no jewish office-holders in the US, UK, Germany.

As Israel's arab proportion of the population increases, the secular jews will follow the pattern of secular jews everywhere besides israel and assimilate into the local culture. Palestine will be a (relatively) liberal democracy with the end of Israel being caused by differential birthrates and leftist/liberal jewish israelis working with arab israelis to compromise.

Space travel won't have much accomplished still.

Baseball will die and America pick up soccer like the rest of the world.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2008, 09:25:18 PM »

Cars are once again just toys for the rich. Those cars that are produced are fancy and very high-end. Think all mercedes-benz. They are self-driving.

Air travel is likewise something only for the rich to do. What air travel there is mostly consists of transporting stuff that must get to places RAPIDLY.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2008, 09:28:16 PM »

Also, the third wave of colonialism(Washington Consensus/Neoliberal globalization) is long dead by 2050. this gives many third world nations much more freedom of action but at the price of no more assured imputs of western energy/food/investment capital. This leads to biblical level dieoffs in non-Colombian/brazilian/uruguayan/chilean south america, Africa, non-Filipino southeast asia, South Asia and The middle east.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2008, 09:40:45 PM »

Presuming all the expansions(mexico, central america, liberia, carib, phillippines, latin union's african members, guyana, etc) happen. US is around 800 million or so and populated mostly by 'Americans'/'Gringos'. Race is less important than now with the bulk being part or full multiracial. Due to the one-drop rule still being in place, technically the US has only a relatively small 'white' minority(30%) or so but in practice the largest chunk of the population consists of people who of mixed race but majority/plurality of their genes are european.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2008, 09:43:58 PM »

Also, this is an america converging to an emerging common anglo-latin culture. Multiculturalism died with the baby boomers along with identity politics. America turning into an anglo-latin state lead to latin ideas about being the majority/winners in a society becoming the norm for the rest of the population(the other half in anglo-latin marriages even now usually assimilates into latin norms anddefinately the kids... This applies even if they're anglophone). The golden door is long closed and probably won't be re-opened.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2008, 09:51:08 PM »

LA's population is most likely 100,000-300,000 due to the collapse of the car culture and Hollywood as we know it's demise. Hollywood and centralized film-making in general has also more or less collapsed due to the internet, youtube and ever improving/becoming cheaper CGI enabling independent productions to compete with the majros. The rustbelt/northeast/midwest are booming again. Income levels and development in the coast from virginia southwards to florida are on par with northern levels by 2030, Texas by 2045 and the interior south is still lagging.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2008, 01:26:43 PM »

China is a paper tiger that's fudging their economic figures.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 04:17:46 PM »

These predictions are pretty ridiculous. Seriously America annexing Mexico and there being an Anglo-Latin culture? There are so many reasons why that would never happen...
1 IT's more like we end up inheriting it after the increasingly unstable central government blows up as a result of economic crises caused by PEMEX mismanaging the oil supplies and 3/4 of mexico flees here.
2 The US's mainstream culture is latinizing each year. We're well on that road already.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2008, 04:18:43 PM »

China and India are both paper tigers and jokes. Brazil is the potential big boy to watch since they've started getting their act together.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 03:14:48 PM »

LOL PEAK OIL HURRRRRR :tinfoil:

Peak oil won't be the end of modern civilization, people.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2008, 08:30:28 PM »

I don't really see how peak oil is at worst anything more than a bad decade or two of readjustment for the west.
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Matt Damon™
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2009, 01:09:01 AM »

Palestine will have replaced Israel
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2009, 09:40:12 PM »

3/4 of their populaiton, including relatives of a decent chunk of their electorate flees here in the wake of a collapse. That plus the oil supplies means we'd be stuck owning Mexico.
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