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k-onmmunist
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« on: June 06, 2012, 08:17:21 AM »

I agree with all of what you said, actually.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 11:28:42 AM »

"Left wing media bias"

Uh, yeah, a quick glance of the newspaper endorsements for the last election disproves that pretty swiftly.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 03:05:01 PM »

"A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body"

You don't agree with the principle of self-ownership?
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 03:17:58 PM »

"A woman has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body"

You don't agree with the principle of self-ownership?

The talking point pisses me off when used in situations that don't apply, or involve someone else (abortion).

Someone else being a bunch of cells... oh boy...


And it's brother talking point, "militant secularism" as Baroness Warsi put it...
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k-onmmunist
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 05:37:03 PM »


"The Royal Family bring a lot of tourist money into this country"
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 01:48:01 PM »

Any politician who compares the economy to one household deserves to be stretched on the rack.

^^^

This is a good one.
Dig at Thatcher? Why is it so wrong? IMHO, Macroeconomics isn't really very different from Micro, Keynes was innaccurate to say they are unconflateable, and that really was poor mathematics.

Also , people that don't accept the laffer curve as correct get my goat. We can legitimately debate where the maximum point is, but don't pretend near 0 or 100% income tax would generate revenue

So the whole 95% tax rate we had from 1945-1973... it generated no revenue at all?
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 04:17:04 PM »

So the whole 95% tax rate we had from 1945-1973... it generated no revenue at all?
Pretty much. Tens of Thousands of wealthy people and celebrities moved abroad. When the top rate was cut to 60%, revenue more than doubled.
Don't forget, Taxman by the Beatles was a protest against that exact policy.. "Should 5 percent appear to small".

Tax loopholes =/= higher top rates not being a good idea.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 03:43:24 PM »

"a woman's right to choose" - but the human being inside the womb cannot choose

I hope you extend the right to choose to warts and tumours

Also, marijuana is less harmful than alcohol as has been shown in countless scientific studies - there's less potential for addiction, it's far less likely to be related to violence and it's possible to overdose on alcohol - no-one has ever died from a marijuana overdose.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 04:13:13 AM »

Here we go:

1. "We should keep the monarchy, they bring in tourist money!"
2. "It's Scotland's oil"
3. "Everyone on welfare is a scrounger!"
4. "Immigrants are taking all our jobs/leeching off our welfare!"
5. "It's political correctness gone mad!"/"I'm not racist but..."
6. "Thatcher got some things right/We got some things wrong in the 80s" (Specifically from Labour ministers, usually)
7. "Gay marriage is a threat to traditional marriage!"
8. Every single argument radical feminists use against transwomen.
9. "The Human Rights Act is evul!"
10. "The BBC/media is controlled by the left wing/liberals!"
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k-onmmunist
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2012, 04:21:27 AM »

8. Every single argument radical feminists use against transwomen.

Why would feminists be against transgenderism ? Huh

Not all feminists, just the radical "kill all men" fringe - the arguments being that transwomen are somehow "appropriating" the female gender, they're not real women, they can never understand because they don't have uteruses, they're mentally ill etc.

There's been a spate of controversies recently due to some radfem events having "womyn-born-womyn only" policies to exclude transgenders specifically.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 05:11:48 AM »

8. Every single argument radical feminists use against transwomen.

Why would feminists be against transgenderism ? Huh

Not all feminists, just the radical "kill all men" fringe - the arguments being that transwomen are somehow "appropriating" the female gender, they're not real women, they can never understand because they don't have uteruses, they're mentally ill etc.

There's been a spate of controversies recently due to some radfem events having "womyn-born-womyn only" policies to exclude transgenders specifically.

I'd say those aren't real feminist. If you believe in an essentialist conception of female identity you're eventually a defender of the patriarchal order.

Indeed... they're little different than religious fundamentalists/extreme conservatives who claim much the same thing...
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