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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« on: May 30, 2010, 08:51:46 AM »

You all underestimated Johnson. Under similar circumstances, Nixon's more moderate stances wouldn't prevent a landslide defeat.



Johnson : 56%, 440 EVs
Nixon : 43%, 98 EVs
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,401
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 02:47:39 AM »

Johnson wouldn't have been able to use the little girl and the flower against Nixon so the south would be in play. Nixon was not a segregationist so the north would've been in play. Without the vile attacks from the left, it would've been a close race.

lol. No, it would not ahve been a close race because LBJ's approval ratings were at about 70%. And without a Southern third party (and in this scenario there is none), Nixon wins most of the South since Southerners would be pissed at LBJ and since Nixon was against affiramtive action and forced busing (unlike LBJ, who favored it).

It would not have been at 70% if Nixon was running because he'd have been seen as a return to the Ike era.

No. It would have still been at 70% due to the good economy and the popularity of the Vietnam War. And despite the fact taht Ike was reasonably popular in 1960 and that Nixon was seen as a continuation to the Ike era, Nixon still lost.

[derek]BUT JFK STOLE THE  ELECTION !!![/derek]
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,401
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 10:12:44 AM »

Johnson wouldn't have been able to use the little girl and the flower against Nixon so the south would be in play. Nixon was not a segregationist so the north would've been in play. Without the vile attacks from the left, it would've been a close race.

lol. No, it would not ahve been a close race because LBJ's approval ratings were at about 70%. And without a Southern third party (and in this scenario there is none), Nixon wins most of the South since Southerners would be pissed at LBJ and since Nixon was against affiramtive action and forced busing (unlike LBJ, who favored it).

It would not have been at 70% if Nixon was running because he'd have been seen as a return to the Ike era.

No. It would have still been at 70% due to the good economy and the popularity of the Vietnam War. And despite the fact taht Ike was reasonably popular in 1960 and that Nixon was seen as a continuation to the Ike era, Nixon still lost.

[derek]BUT JFK STOLE THE  ELECTION !!![/derek]

What? Alot of people think he did with his ties to the mafia but I'm not commenting on it one way or the other. Instead I'm reporting you for libel.

Then report also this : you are a pathetic unfunny joke.
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