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Question: Looking back, do you think abortion rights advocates lost more than they gained with this decision?
#1
Democrat -Yes
 
#2
Democrat -No
 
#3
Republican -Yes
 
#4
Republican -No
 
#5
independent/third party -Yes
 
#6
independent/third party -No
 
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Total Voters: 45

Author Topic: 40th Anniversary of Roe vs. Wade Decision Legalizing Abortion  (Read 3590 times)
Antonio the Sixth
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« on: January 28, 2013, 11:15:17 PM »

I'm not a fan of the idea that a court is to settle the debate over abortion. This should be a job for the people's representatives, not for constitutional judges. However, provided that the representatives of the people (reflecting their constituents) are assholes who hold abhorrent views on the subject, on a practical level, I'm happy for this decision. Hopefully, this arrangement is only temporary and abortion right will eventually be set in legislative stone, as they should.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 01:49:59 AM »

How could they possibly have lost more than they gained? Abortion has been legal nationwide for 40 years.

From a political standpoint, they lost a lot. Had abortion rights been legalized at the ballot box rather than by the judiciary, they'd be on a lot more stable footing and wouldn't even be a political issue at this point.

I agree. Without Roe, most of the country would likely have legalized abortion by referendum or ballot initiative or statute within the next decade or so. The whole rise of the Christian Right in the mid- and late-70s may never have happened.

But more importantly, Roe v. Wade led Conservative America to believe they couldn't trust the Supreme Court anymore. It fed into this notion that they were and are a persecuted minority (majority?) constantly being picked on by elite institutions (SCOTUS, government agencies, elite universities, the MSM).

I very highly doubt one single event prompted all this. There is a very large list of factors that can explain the rise of the Conservative Movement, but above all let's not forget it was in large parts a conscious and concerted effort by a small group of intellectuals, politicians and wealthy elites.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 09:17:55 PM »

Yeah, I tend to agree with that. Judicial activism of this extent is never a good thing for a democracy, and the ruling incredibly energized opponents, which is one of the reasons why anti-choice is still a mainstream position in the US to this day, whereas in most European countries no major politician would support it.
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