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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: August 25, 2016, 03:25:02 AM »

Same as Burkini actually. It shouldn't exist ideally, but banning it would do more harm than good.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2016, 12:42:15 PM »

also judaism is not a "religion" ffs

Huh
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2016, 01:01:12 PM »

Non-observant Jews are just as Jewish as the Chief Rabbis of Israel. My statement was a bit strongly worded, and Judaism has religious aspects, but saying "one is not born with a religion" as argument against brit mila makes no sense because one is in fact born with a heritage of thousands of years, with a family, with a people. It is an extremely important part of the cycle of life as a Jew, together with the bar mitzvah, marrying, etc. Even many non-observant or not-all-that-observant Jews think brit mila is of importance. The American tendency to view Judaism as a religion just like Christianity while we should really be seen as another ethnic group with its own tribal rules and traditions (which, indeed, come from G-d) annoys me to no end, although I realize it's mainly Jews who have contributed to this in their attempt to assimilate and get rid of anti-Jewish prejudice.

I thought the word Judaism referred specifically to the religion, as opposed to the ethnicity. My bad if I was mistaken.

Of course I'm aware that there are non-observant (and even nonbelieving) Jews. But surely you'll agree that there is a (for lack of a better way I know of phrasing it) a "Jewish religion" that can be compared and contrasted to others, right?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2016, 05:08:21 PM »

The thing is the tap dancing is entirely necessary, because although a ban would have a significant pro in that I consider the act immoral, the consequences (which would essentially be a sign to Jews that "You Are Not Welcome Here" and all that implies) could be nightmarish. I have no intention of becoming the useful idiot for a fascist, whatever my personal qualms with the procedure. It's not an issue that is important enough to die on.

This sums up my view perfectly (add Muslims alongside Jews, as well).
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