Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[Antonio the Sixth]

People of the Pacific, I submit today a bill of primary importance :


We'll miss you Act

1. November 2th shall hereby be a mourning day known as the Russ, we'll miss you Day, in the honor of former Senator Russ Feingold.
2. During his day, any household that asks for shall be gratuitously supplied in yard signs, posters, T-shirts or pins displaying the words "Russ, we'll miss you", or a picture of Russ Feingold.
3. A household shall be entitled under section 2) to a maximum of two previously cited items.
4. No household that has already received two previously cited items from the Pacific government under section 2) in the previous 10 years shall be entitled to the provision of section 2).


I'd like to attract the attention of Mr Pacific Justice on the fact that, as fmr Senator Feingold has been restlessly working for general welfare for the last 18 years, the We'll miss you Act can be considered as promoting the general welfare.

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Aye

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Hey guys, we need more votes !

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Aye

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What the hell are all these reactionary bills ?

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I'd like to draw your attention to the voting on the Intra-Regional Mobility amendment. Please vote!

Personally, I'll be opposing this - it may be well-intentioned, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions - it'll clutter the registration thread, and the objections of two RGs past and present show my worries have some credibility, I think.

Firstly, Fritz did NOT object to it as R.G., as I clearly remember pointing out to you the last time around when you made this claim. That's why it easily got passed in July.

Secondly, as I said, this amendment was ALREADY PASSED in July into the old constitution. and was in force for three months. Armageddon did not break out in the registration thread, so your objections are clearly unfounded.

All this amendment does is restore a policy that was already on the books for three months but was accidentally left out of the new constitution. It has been endorsed by Purple State, Marokai Blue, Badger, and Kalwejt, none of whom have any personal reason to support anything I have proposed.

FYI, I support it too.

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Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

*signature*

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Aye

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I like the bill except for the term limits, for which I don't really see the point. Also, the way Councilors are elected isn't very clear.

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I like the bill except for the term limits, for which I don't really see the point. Also, the way Councilors are elected isn't very clear.

I thought about that myself after looking at our draft.  Maybe we could have one seat up for election say, every two months and each seat would have a six month term (after our first election, maybe two seats can volunteer for shorter terms so we can get the ball rolling)?  And use IRV for each election?

I'm hoping we can get this passed before the end of the month so we can have elections in December along with Governor and Lt. Governor.

I like the idea of terms not being simultaneous (it will make the Council look like the US Senate ).

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I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office. 

It's been an honor, I guess. 

We'll miss you.

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The Pacific General Assembly Amendment : Aye
Repeal of the Public Funding of Abortion Act : Nay

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I like the idea of one-third-at-time elections. Maybe though it could be 3 months instead of 6 as Xahar suggested.

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X Jbrase

We, the Pacific Justice, officially deem the Cobain-Bieber bill as unconstitutional.

The Constitution of the Pacific Region expressly States that "The Pacific Region shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, or deny to any person the equal protection of the laws, or pass any bill of attainder or ex post facto law. " (III, 4). We consider that section 1 violates the bolded clause, at its provision singles out a specific person.

The Pacific Consitution also states that "The Pacific Region shall not abridge the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (III, 2). We consider that deciding whether or not Justin Bieber is the new Kurt Kobain is a freedom of speech that belongs to each individual.

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Nah, your bill sucks epically, but is constitutional.

Though I'd prefer this one :

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Nah, your bill sucks epically, but is constitutional.

Though I'd prefer this one :

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Ok, If my bill that would have made the day Hamilton was banned a regional holiday and day celebration, "Aaron Burr Day", then I'm gonna question the constitutionality of this

Well, I'm not Fuzzybigfoot and in this case I hold different constitutional standards. More specifically, I don't consider the "general welfare" mention in the preamble in a so restrictive way. Otherwise, your bill would be equally unconstitutional as mine.

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A Constitutional Amendment is by definition constitutional. I haven't any work there.

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So that means all my previous rulings had no value ? Not that it's a big problem, but I'll have to re-state constitutionality of each bill.

Anyways, Aye (and thanks again to Oakvale).

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The Pacific General Assembly Amendment : Aye
Antonio V for Pacific Justice : Aye

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Thank you again, Mr. Governor.

To ensure their legality, I'll repeat my constitutionality statements :

The Cobain-Bieber Act of 2010 : unconstitutional
The We'll Miss You Act of 2010 : constitutional
Good riddance Act of 2010 : constitutional

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F.A. Hayek.

I get mad each time I hear the name of this damned Friedrich August Von Hack.

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I offer an Amendment :

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I offer an Amendment :

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I fully support this amendment.

All right, fine then.

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BTW, forgot to say, it's constitutional.

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That's awful, I think we can do without a right-to-work law.

"To avoid people complaining about free riders"?  What?  Does anyone else see a problem with allotting people a certain set of benefits and not the others?  Let's not forget it is the government's place to step in and regulate if businesses are unwilling to treat their workers fairly and humanely of their own accord.  This sort of legislation, I think, unnecessarily politicizes a process which should not really be so, that of joining a union.  We do have the highest rate of union membership out of the regions and I don't see why we would want to decrease that?

I admit I was pretty indecise about the last section. I mostly agree with you Ebowed, but on the other hand I also think it could be a good way to extend union membership. Let's say that's worth a debate.