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« on: January 19, 2019, 12:27:49 AM »

I'm not going to say that the Bible condones homosexual activity. Because it doesn't.  Scripture says what it says, and if I'm dissonance in the Echo Chamber, so be it.   

In 20-30 years, when your denomination sanctions gay marriage and even your particular church building performs them, you'll find some contrivance for how you were never actually wrong and the church isn't now either. Maybe a long string of paragraphs about how Muslims were always worse to the gays or something.
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2019, 01:08:57 AM »

I'm not going to say that the Bible condones homosexual activity. Because it doesn't.  Scripture says what it says, and if I'm dissonance in the Echo Chamber, so be it.   

In 20-30 years, when your denomination sanctions gay marriage and even your particular church building performs them, you'll find some contrivance for how you were never actually wrong and the church isn't now either. Maybe a long string of paragraphs about how Muslims were always worse to the gays or something.

I know very little about Pentecostals, so I have no idea if there is a powerful pro-LGBT movement within that denomination.  However, I have little doubt that in 20-30 years Bible believing Christians will be very unpopular.  Anyone who still identifies as such won't care about social pressure at that point I think.

What is it with homophobes and thinking that  the only reason we want them to change is "social pressure"? It's because accepting LGBT people is the morally right thing to do, not because it's hip or trendy.

Agreed. The Episcopals and ELCA didn't decide to extend the marriage sacrament to LGBTQ people because of any social pressure - they did it because they decided for themselves that it was the right thing to do. The same process will play out internally in the remaining denominations as younger generations move into positions of power.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2019, 10:35:32 PM »

I'm not going to say that the Bible condones homosexual activity. Because it doesn't.  Scripture says what it says, and if I'm dissonance in the Echo Chamber, so be it.   

In 20-30 years, when your denomination sanctions gay marriage and even your particular church building performs them, you'll find some contrivance for how you were never actually wrong and the church isn't now either. Maybe a long string of paragraphs about how Muslims were always worse to the gays or something.

I know very little about Pentecostals, so I have no idea if there is a powerful pro-LGBT movement within that denomination.  However, I have little doubt that in 20-30 years Bible believing Christians will be very unpopular.  Anyone who still identifies as such won't care about social pressure at that point I think.

What is it with homophobes and thinking that  the only reason we want them to change is "social pressure"? It's because accepting LGBT people is the morally right thing to do, not because it's hip or trendy.

I'm not afraid of LGBT people at all.  But it's quite obvious that support for SSM within Christianity, Judaism, and Islam is due to social pressure.

Wrong again. The Episcopals and ELCA (and other smaller denominations) decided to affirm LGBTQ equality because their own members believed in it, and it had nothing to do with "social pressure."

Similarly, when your denomination decides to do so at some point in the first half of the 21st century, it will because the leadership honestly believes in it, not because of "social pressure."
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