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Umengus
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« on: October 05, 2012, 04:25:10 PM »

Party id: D +22 (2008= D +16)

After analyse, this poll is completely different compared to 2008 so...

2008

Obama: D +82 R -83 I +15

2012

Obama: D +63 R -68 I -13
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Umengus
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2012, 04:35:01 PM »

Party id: D +22 (2008= D +16)

After analyse, this poll is completely different compared to 2008 so...

2008

Obama: D +82 R -83 I +15

2012

Obama: D +63 R -68 I -13
Party id: D +22 (2008= D +16)

After analyse, this poll is completely different compared to 2008 so...

2008

Obama: D +82 R -83 I +15

2012

Obama: D +63 R -68 I -13
Party id: D +22 (2008= D +16)

After analyse, this poll is completely different compared to 2008 so...

2008

Obama: D +82 R -83 I +15

2012

Obama: D +63 R -68 I -13

Please, please stop.

facts are stubborn things

(and you can ignore me)
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Umengus
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2012, 04:17:06 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2012, 04:19:45 AM by Umengus »

Party ID is not irrelevant. In fact it is an interesting measure of voter attitudes. It should be looked at like approval rating or right track/wrong track. It is not however a tool to analyze the accuracy of a poll.

the problem is there is a very strong correlation between the obama score and the D advantage in the sample. Generally: a sample with D+10 and you will have Obama +9 and so on...

COnsidering I'm pretty sure that the sample will not be D+10, I disagree with Obama +9.

For now, some (bad) pollsters show a very big democratic turnout (greater than in 2008 !). I strongly oppose that!

I remember than in 2004 (the golden age of this forum), all nationals polls were corrected by vorlon with a rational party id.

And in 2004 and 2008, Rasmussen gave the final result.
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Umengus
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2012, 04:20:46 AM »

Party ID is not irrelevant. In fact it is an interesting measure of voter attitudes. It should be looked at like approval rating or right track/wrong track. It is not however a tool to analyze the accuracy of a poll.

the problem is there is a very strong correlation between the obama score and the D advantage in the sample. Generally: a sample with D+10 and you will have Obama +9 and so on...

COnsidering I'm pretty sure that the sample will not be D+10, I disagree with Obama +9.

For now, some (bad) pollsters show a very big democratic turnout (greater than in 2008 !). I strongly oppose that!

Well of course you "oppose" high turnout. You support Republicans.

I oppose strong democratic turnout indeed. 2008 was The exception. Not the normal.
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