My opinion of the top 10 worst Presidents ever.

[Mechaman]

Putting both Roosevelts and Obama in a 10 Worst Presidents list IS trolling.

If it's their personal opinion though is it really trolling?  I mean I bet the leftist versions of wormy and Morgan would put Ronald Reagan and Calvin Coolidge on their lists.

You got to keep in mind that this thread is "top 10 WORST presidents ever", not the "10 biggest failures as presidents".  The word "worst" in my opinion implies more subjectivity than the word "failure" since "worst" 9 times out of 10 means whatever one person thinks is horrible.  I mean from a libertarian standpoint FDR wasn't the greatest man in the world (passing the New Deal, expanding government, threats to pack the court, the whole internment deal, etc. etc. etc.)  If this thread was "the 10 biggest failures as president" then I could see how listing Roosevelt (who was elected four times and passed the biggest pieces of legislation in US History) could be trolling.  Obama, well I don't believe in listing presidents who are still in office on any "best" or "worst" lists but that's just me.  I don't like him but I'm at least willing to wait until 2017 (if the GOP doesn't get it sh*t together which feels likely) before I put him on a "worst of" list.

I mean really it's pretty hard to troll a list of the "worst presidents".  Okay maybe if Washington is in the list they probably are trolling but besides that I just can't really see how a subject as subjective as ranking presidents as the "best" or the "worst" due to differences/similarities in ideology can be construed into trollin.

[Mechaman]

Anyone not mentioning Reagan is a complete hack.  In addition to setting the stage for long term fiscal clusterfu(k, the man sold weapons to Iran. You really can't get much crappier (or more treasonous) than that.

You got to keep in mind that there are 44 presidents, a majority of them pretty crappy in their own right.
And somebody could make similar arguments as to why FDR should be on the list (he tried to stack the court, he put people in f8**ing internment camps, he kept silent about lynching laws for most of his presidency, etc. etc.) as you did for Reagan.
Historians rank both of these guys high so yeah maybe they are hacks?  Or are a majority of Americans also hacks?
Hey I don't like Reagan okay I'm just saying that each person sees things through their own rose tinted glasses.  It's IMPOSSIBLE for any normal person with any political leanings to make a list that doesn't come out as hackish to someone else.

[Mechaman]

How exactly is Bush worse than Harding or Hoover?

Harding did nothing, so he's just mediocre. Hoover was a fail, but not such a fail as Dubya (and to be fair 90% of that time's politicians would probably have failed like Hoover did).

So a Democratic President would've sign off on the Smoot-Hawley Tariff?

Really?