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California8429
A-Bob
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« on: January 11, 2011, 05:34:30 PM »

First off, every citizen is welcome to participate in our debate, Badger is the top example of this, it's like he's a voting member practically. Any citizen has the ability to shape the bill. Even as a dominated assembly, we hold up bills for other criticisms, suggestions, and debate. The child board as you've said has been a big help to increase assembly activity, though it also is in the government board which few people read except candidates and elected officials Tongue and hence can discourage less active Atlasians to participate.
 
The problem I have with a bunch of ballot box type votes is it takes a long time, it's the reason we have the Assembly. If citizens really want to be active and introduce their own legislation, they are free to due so and it's defended in the Constitution. Citizens can bring bills up to debate if they really have a passion for it and want to see it passed.

What you talk about is very noble, but I just don't think our region is big and active enough with enough people to really do all of this.
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California8429
A-Bob
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 11:26:18 PM »

We can look into the Governor posting updates about current laws being debated with the links so citizens can look at that since the Governor's office is in the election board, that way there's a bridge between the two.
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California8429
A-Bob
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 06:34:45 PM »

The tax plan you laid out would actually produce slightly less revenue than our current model
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California8429
A-Bob
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 07:19:22 PM »

The tax plan you laid out would actually produce slightly less revenue than our current model
I don't actually see how that's possible, but I'll take a closer look at it. In any case, I'd also look to remove the mortgage interest deduction and about 7 billion in corporate tax expenditures.

our sales tax had to move to 5.7% and our income tax brackets are about the same
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California8429
A-Bob
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 09:31:11 PM »

We're cutting all $163.75 billion btw Wink

Apparently they'd be ineffective (which I'm fine with to save money Cheesy)
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California8429
A-Bob
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 09:53:03 PM »

as I understand it, if you got rid of all those, then we wouldn't have a budget shortfall.

Wouldn't the tax cuts be subject to the current budget though? As in here's the 10% rate say for something, but you only have to pay 8% this year?

Still, I'm win with save $163.75 billion Cheesy

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question, A-Bob. In a nutshell the above listed tax deductions are included in the upcoming budget to the same extent as allowed in RL (which according to Torie most states will allow deductions to the same extent as the federal government does). As there is currently no proposed change to the level of such tax deductions, they will already be included in the final calculation of revenue collected and therefore don't impact "spending" levels at all. If such deductions are to be expanded or reduced from present levels in the future, however, that will then obviously affect revenue levels.


it looks to me like the only change that's been made has been in how it's counted  (from the expenditure to the revenue side of the equation). a reduction in deductions as I am proposing should actually increase tax revenue.

I read that as in the next budget we create. I will take it up with Badger thanks
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California8429
A-Bob
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2011, 06:33:19 PM »

Congrats
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