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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« on: November 10, 2016, 05:11:46 AM »

Sanders wouldn't get clobbered in the Rust Belt. In GE, with the race heating up, he would hold onto minority base like any other Democratic nominee. You may say "but Hillary", yet minority base hardly made difference in crucial states such as Florida and North Carolina, as well as in the north it seems, despite all the support she had there.

We are spending a lot of time talking about what the Democrats did wrong and not as much time talking about what Trump did right. He's what the people wanted and knew how to connect in a way that no one else could.

How about minimizing the damage? Democrats could do better with these people, but failed.

Look man, we've had our disagreements, but we were on the same side and I'm hardly happy with what happened. So I'm not here to gloat or anything. I think we should just have enough intellectual integrity to accept Hillary was not the best candidate (and I'm not just talking about Sanders, I'm talking about the party essentially clearing the field of candidates for her). Her mistakes and Trump's success are two sides of the same coin. You can't separate the two.
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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2016, 02:34:46 PM »

I just hate savaging a fundamentally good woman when it is not clear at all that she was as horrible as people are now wanting to say. Trump, apparently, was just really good. That wouldn't have changed against Sanders, and we can't know how he would have done. We do know, though, that we lost the primary, so the whole thing is stupid.

Even so... Michigan has a huge black population that might have been even less motivated by Sanders. Hillary reached other voters that he would have alienated. I just think this is so f-cking silly.

I do understand, Hagrid. The sheer amount of crap Hillary received this season alone is mindblowing. I still, however, stand by my opinion (which I voiced even when she was appearing to have headed for sure victory) she was not a good candidate. It doesn't make her any worse person.

As of Sanders and Black voters, I'm not sure he'd do "worse". Hillary's connection to this group didn't help much this election. I really think he'd do better among white voters in WI, OH, MI and PA, which decided this damn election. So would Biden.
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