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« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2016, 05:20:25 PM »

Current Governors Choose President For 2017
Rules: Must achieve 66% of states (34 Governors), can only choose from current governors

First Ballot

Scott Walker (R): 6 votes
Andrew Cuomo (D): 5 votes
Rick Scott (R): 4 votes
Chris Christie (R): 3 votes
Jay Nixon (D): 3 votes
Maggie Hassan (D): 3 votes
Sam Brownback (R): 3 votes
Jerry Brown (D): 2 votes
Greg Abbott (R): 2 votes
Butch Otter (R): 1 Vote
Jack Markell (D): 1 Vote
Jay Inslee (D): 1 vote
John Hickenlooper (D): 1 vote
John Kasich (R): 1 vote
Nathan Deal (R): 1 vote
Nikki Haley (R): 1 vote
Paul LePage (R): 1 vote
Robert Bentley (R): 1 vote
Tom Wolf (D): 1 vote
Blank Ballots: 10 votes

Upon the Governors meeting they immediately take a vote to see where the cards fall. 19 candidates names are on the table, 38% of the possible pool.  10 of those only have a single vote. A fifth of the Governors leaves their ballot blank.

Second Ballot

Scott: 8 votes
Walker: 7 votes
Cuomo: 6 votes
Abbot: 4 votes
Christie: 3 votes
Nixon: 3 votes
Hassan: 3 votes
Brownback: 3 votes
K. Brown: 2 votes
Bullock: 2 votes
Otter: 2 votes
Inslee: 1 vote
Hickenlooper: 1 vote
J. Brown: 1 vote
Haley: 1 vote
Kasich: 1 vote

Rick Scott and Scott Walker potentially solidify themselves as front-runners for the Presidency. They will need to wrap up their entire party and then some Democrats to win.

Third Ballot:

Walker: 9 votes
Scott: 8 votes
Cuomo: 6 votes
Christie: 5 votes
Abbott: 4 votes
Nixon: 3 votes
Otter: 3 votes
Hassan: 3 votes
K. Brown: 3 votes
Hickenlooper: 2 votes
Bullock: 2 votes
Kasich: 1 vote
Brownback: 1 vote

On the third ballot, we saw a slight more consolidation of the vote

Fourth Ballot:

Walker: 10 votes
Scott: 9 votes
K. Brown: 7 votes
Abbott: 7 votes
Nixon: 6 votes
Cuomo: 5 votes
Christie: 5 votes
Hickenlooper: 1 vote

Major consolidation on both sides, but who will lose support first?

Fifth Round:

K. Brown: 11 votes
Walker: 10 votes
Scott: 9 votes
Abbott: 8 votes
Nixon: 8 votes
Christie: 3 votes
Cuomo: 1 vote

Kate Brown takes the lead. Cuomo and Christie lose support.


Sixth Round


Nixon: 12 votes
K. Brown: 11 votes
Walker: 10 votes
Scott: 9 votes
Abbott: 8 votes

Two Democrats lead for the first time today.

Seventh Round

Nixon: 13 votes
Walker: 12 votes
K. Brown: 11 votes
Abbott: 11 votes
Scott: 3 votes

Nixon and Walker take the lead. Governors are tired on the eight round of voting

Eight Round

Nixon: 24 votes
Walker: 15 votes
Abbott: 11 votes

Three candidates are left

Ninth Round

Nixon: 27 votes
Walker: 18 votes
Abbott:  5 votes

Tenth Round

Nixon: 34 votes (1 independent, 15 Republicans, 18 Democrats)
Walker: 16 votes (All Republicans)
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« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2016, 04:39:58 PM »



Direct Link: http://i.imgur.com/UspTI7B.jpg

I made this.

Edit: Should have cropped. Oh well.
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« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2016, 10:00:10 AM »

The link does not work either. Can you re-post?

Link works. Try again. http://i.imgur.com/UspTI7B.jpg
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« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2016, 10:45:48 AM »

Was there supposed to be a wikibox of the 2020 election? If so, I don't see it.

There was, apparently it cut off. Will try to repost later.
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« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2016, 02:20:52 PM »

I believe that this forum is not the best place to post wikipedia info boxes. Just post the electoral vote map.

Who made you king you tart
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« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2016, 02:53:58 PM »

Based off a game of President Infinity I played. H.W. Bush declines to run for reelection, Gerald Ford steps in and unites the party and wins against a strong Perot and weak Douglas Wilder.

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1993
Fmr. Pres. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1993-2001
Sen. Zell Miller (D-GA)[1]/Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT), Vacant, Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2001-2009
Sen. Gary Johnson[2] (R-NM)/Sen. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-2017
VP.Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Mia Love (R-UT) 2017-2021
Gov. Maggie Hassan (D-NH)/Gov. Jay Nixon (D-MO) 2021-2025
Fmr. SoS. Rand Paul (R-KY)/Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) 2025-20??

[1] Zell Miller's presidency looks very similar to OTL Bush, but with a similar act to the ACA passing in 2002. This causes even more debt due to both the wars and expanded medicare. This leads the Republicans to be the anti-war, more libertarian party, in part also due to Ford's more moderate influence, as well as less of a conservative revolution in the 90's. During this time, Howard Dean resigns in protest of the war, and Evan Bayh is appointed to replace him.
[2] After giving the keynote address at the 2004 RNC and running for senate, Gary Johnson is seen as the party's best chance to take the White House, and wins in a landslide against unpopular appointed VP Evan Bayh, after Bayh won a contested and scandalous primary against Fmr. VP Howard Dean.

Wouldn't Ford be constitutionally barred from seeking re-election at 1996, even if he weren't 83 years old?

Depends on if he served less than half of Nixon's second term. Not sure what it actually is.
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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2016, 01:58:38 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2016, 07:21:13 PM by sentinel »

Presidents of the United States

19. Samuel J. Tilden, Democratic, New York, 1877 -1881

20. James G. Blaine, Republican, Maine, 1881 - 1885

21. Allen G. Thurmond, Democratic, Ohio, 1885 - 1889

22. Thomas Bayard, Democratic, Delaware, 1889 - 1897

23. William McKinley, Republican, Ohio - 1897 - 1901

24. John Davis Long, Republican, Massachusetts, 1901 - 1909

25. Joseph W. Folk, Democratic, Missouri - 1909 - 1917

26. Thomas R. Marshall, Democratic, Indiana - 1917 -1925

27. Calvin Coolidge, Republican, Massachusetts, 1925 - 1933

28. William Borah, Republican, Idaho, 1933 - 1933

29. Newton D. Baker, Democratic, Ohio, 1933 - 1937

30. Joseph Taylor Robinson, Democratic, New York, 1933 - 1937

31. Cordell Hull, Democratic, Tennessee, 1937 - 1941

32. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., Republican, New York, 1941 - 1944

33. Arthur H. Vandenberg, Republican, Michigan, 1944 - 1949

34. Thomas Dewey, Republican, New York, 1949 - 1961

35. Hubert Humphrey, Democratic, Minnesota, 1961 - 1969

36. W. Averell Harriman, Democratic, New York, 1969 - 1972

37. Lyndon B. Johnson, Democratic, Texas, 1972 - 1973

38. George McGovern, Democratic, South Dakota, 1973 - 1977

39. Richard Schweiker, Republican, Pennsylvania, 1977 - 1981

40. Frank Church, Democratic, Idaho, 1981 - 1984

41. John Glenn, Democratic, Ohio, 1984 - 1989

42. Pierre S. du Pont, Republican, Delaware, 1989 - 1993

43. John Glenn, Democratic, Ohio, 1993 - 1997

44. James A. Baker Republican, Tennessee, 1997 - 2005

45. Tom Daschle, Democratic, South Dakota, 2005 - 2013

46. Kirsten Gillibrand, Democratic, New York, 2013 - Present

Vice Presidents of the United States

19. Thomas A. Hendricks, Democratic, Ohio, 1877 - 1881

20. Chester A. Arthur, Republican, New York, 1881 - 1885

21. Thomas Bayard, Democratic, Delaware, 1881 - 1885

22. Samuel J. Randall, Democratic, Pennsylvania, 1885 - 1890

Vacant, 1890 - 1893

23. Horace Boies, Democratic, Iowa - 1893 - 1897

24. John Davis Long, Republican, Massachusetts, 1897 - 1901

Vacant, 1901 - 1905

25. Robert John Wynne, Republican, New York, 1905 - 1909

26. John W. Kern, Democratic, Indiana, 1909 - 1917

27. Woodrow Wilson, Democratic, New Jersey, 1917 - 1924

Vacant, 1924-1925

28. William E. Borah, Democratic, Idaho, 1924 - 1933

Vacant, 1933 - 1933

29. Joseph Taylor Robinson, Democratic, New York, 1933 - 1937

Vacant, 1937 - 1941 A constitutional amendment allowing for VP appointment is passed during this time

30. James F. Byrnes, Democratic, South Carolina, 1939 - 1941

31. Arthur H. Vandenberg, Republican, Michigan 1941 - 1944

Vacant, 1944 - 1944

32. Thomas E. Dewey, Republican, New York, 1944 - 1949

33. Earl Warren, Republican, California, 1949 - 1953

Vacant, 1953 - 1953

34. Robert A. Taft, Republican, Ohio, 1953 - 1953

Vacant, 1953 - 1954

35. Dwight D. Eisenhower, Republican, Kansas, 1954 - 1961

36. W. Averell Harriman, Democratic, New York, 1961 - 1969

37. Lyndon Baines Johnson, Democratic, Texas, 1969 - 1972

Vacant, 1972 - 1972

38. Abraham A. Ribicoff, Democratic, Connecticut, 1972 - 1977

39. Kit Bond, Republican, Missouri, 1977 - 1981

40. John Glen, Democratic, Ohio, 1981 - 1984

Vacant, 1984 - 1985

41. Martha Layne Collins, Democratic, Kentucky, 1985 - 1989

42. James Baker, Republican, Tennessee, 1989 - 1993

43. Michael S. Dukakis, Democratic, Massachusetts, 1993 - 1997

44. Tommy Thompson, Republican, Wisconsin, 1997 - 2005

45. William J. Clinton, Democratic, Arkansas, 2005 - 2013

46. Wesley Clark, Democratic, Oklahoma, 2013 - Present

Losing Tickets

1876 - Republican - Rutherford B. Hayes of Ohio / William Wheeler of New York

1880 - Democratic - Samuel J. Tilden of New York / Thomas A. Hendricks of Ohio

1884 - Republican - James G. Blaine of Maine / Chester A. Arthur of New York

1888 - Republican - Chester A. Arthur of New York / Walter Q. Gresham of Indiana

1892 - Republican - George F. Edmunds of Vermont / Robert Todd Lincoln of New York

1896 - Democratic - Horace Boies of Iowa / William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska

1900 - Democratic - William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska / Thomas Beall Davis of West Virginia

1904 - Democratic - Joseph Folk of Missouri / Alton Parker of New York

1908 - Republican - Joseph G. Cannon of Illinois / Philander Knox of Pennsylvania

1912 - Republican - Theodore Roosevelt of New York / William Howard Taft of Ohio

1916 - Republican - Robert La. Follette of Wisconsin /Albert Cummins of Iowa

1920 - Republican - Henry Ford of Michigan / Charles Hughes of New York

1924 - Democratic - Al Smith of New York / Carter Glass of Virginia

1928 - Democratic - Alexander Palmer of Pennsylvania /  Robert Latham Owen of Oklahoma

1932 - Republican - William Borah of Idaho / Charles Dawes of Illinois

1936 - Republican - Theodore Roosevelt Jr. of New York / Joseph France of Maryland

1940 - Democratic - James F. Byrnes of South Carolina / Millard Tydings of Maryland

1944 - Democratic - Paul V. McNutt of Indiana / Jesse H. Jones of Texas

1948 - Democratic - Andrew Biemiller of Wisconsin / Harry S. Truman of Missouri

1952 - Democratic - Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota / Paul A. Dever of Massachusetts

1956 - Democratic - Estes Kefauver of Tennessee /W. Averell Harriman of New York

1960 - Republican - Earl Warren of California / Douglas MacArthur of Arkansas

1964 - Republican - Margaret Chase Smith of Maine / William Scranton of Pennsylvania

1968 - Republican - Margaret Chase Smith of Maine / Henry Cabot Lodge of Massachusetts

1972 - Republican - Richard Nixon of California / Spiro Agnew of Maryland

1976 - Democratic - Georg McGovern of South Dakota / Abraham A. Ribicoff of Connecticut

1980 - Republican - Richard Schweiker of Pennsylvania / Kit Bond of Missouri

1984 - Republican - Elliot Richardson of Massachusetts / Daniel Evans of Washington

1988 - Democratic - Martha Layne Collins of Kentucky / Dale Bumpers of Arkansas

1992 - Republican - Richard Schweiker of Pennsylvania / George Allen of Virginia

1996 - Democratic - Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts / Bob Kerrey of Nebraska

2000 - Democratic - John McCain of Arizona / John Kerry of Massachusetts

2004 - Republican - Tommy Thompson of Wisconsin / George Pataki of New York

2008 - Republican - Jim Gilmore of Virginia / Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas  

2012 - Republican - Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas / Charlie Crist of Florida

Overall:
34 elections
20 Democratic Wins
14 Republican Wins
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« Reply #57 on: July 07, 2016, 06:24:07 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2016, 06:27:22 PM by sentinel »

1876 - The electoral commission narrowly awards all of the contested states' votes to Tilden giving him the presidency.
 
1880 - Tilden loses reelection being seen as weak, sickly and ineffective despite initially high aspirations.

 1884 - Blaine was a popular President who was widely seen as effective especially in his relationship with Congress. Unfortunately for Blaine, a scandal would break close to election day regarding awarding railroad charters unfairly. This issue would cost Blaine the presidency.

1888 - Thurmond opts to not run for a second term in office. VP Bayard quickly secures the Democratic nomination and narrowly defeats Chester A. Arthur.

1892 - Bayard is elected to a second term easily over George Edmunds. Bayard's Vice President unfortunately died of natural causes during his first term thus he was elected with Horace Boies of Iowa as his running mate this time. Trade was a significant issue during Bayard's term.

 1896 - William McKinley wins the presidency. His administration was marked by rapid economic growth and the Spanish American War which resulted in the American occupation of Cuba (and eventual statehood).

 1900 - McKinley is reelected but is assassinated in 1901. VP John Davis Long assumes the presidency and accuses Spanish nationalists of orchestrating the assassination of McKinley. Relations become very intense between Spain and the United States as the fingers are being pointed at Spain.

1904 - Davis Long is elected to a full term of his own. Soon after, King Alfonso XIII of Spain dies unexpectedly. Spain blames Davis Long for the death of Alfonso further escalating tensions. Spain and Austria jointly declare war on the United States. France and England, seeing an opportunity, align with the United States against Spain and Austria-Hungary. Thus begins World War 1. Ultimately, the Monde Alliance would be the United States, England, France, Germany, Sweden while the Oeste Alliance would be: Spain, Austria-Hungary, Italy, China and Mexico. The war would be won by the Monde Alliance in 1908. The result of the war would be the American annexation of much of northern Mexico, the end of Spain as a global power, and the breakdown of the Austria-Hungarian Empire. Years later, it would be discovered that Alfonso died of the flu.

1908 -  Joseph Folk beats out Jospeh Cannon in a race that swings opposite than expected due to the popularity of President Davis Long. Folk's presidency is rather uncontroversial and he wins a second term. Folk becomes known for improving relations with Europe after the First World War.

1912 - Folks second term in office. He beats out Governor Theodore Roosevelt of New York who is was seen as a rising star in the Republican Party.

 1916 - Folk had widely been expected to run for a third term but opts against running at the eleventh hour. Democrats are in shambles as they try to find a nominee -- Vice President Kearns was known to be in poor health but recommends Governor Thomas Marshall for the nomination. Marshall beats out the Republican ticket.
 
1920 - Marshall's presidency saw the upward swing of the economy and won a second term, securing four terms in a row for the Democratic Party.
 
1924 - Calvin Coolidge is elected President of the United States ending four straight cycles of Republican losses.

 1928 - Coolidge is seen as a success as the nation continues its period of peace and prosperity. In Europe, nationalism and resentment is growing toward the peace deal that was made for World War 1.

1932 - VP Borah loses the 1932 Presidential election but Coolidge dies of natural causes allowing Borah to briefly serve as President. Baker's first term is spent mostly on handling the Great Depression and increased government spending. In 1933, Spain would annex Portugal.

1936 - Newton loses the popular vote but wins the Electoral College sparking protests across the nation for a brief period of time. Governor Theodore Roosevelt Jr, who won the popular vote, calls for the country to unite around Newton once again. In 1939, a fascist dictator in Spain would invade France beginning what would ultimately be World War Two.

1940 - Newton would die of natural causes in 1937 after his reelection. His Vice President had died earlier in the year. Secretary of State Cordell Hull ascends to he presidency, doing no one any favors he calls the death of both Newton and the Vice President "a little too coincidental" for comfort. Cordell orders the United States military to high alert. In Europe the stage is set with the following two alliances at war: Retribution Alliance - Spain, Austria, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy and the Monde Alliance - France and Germany. Governor Theodore Roosevelt Jr would win the Presidency in 1940.
 
1944 - President Roosevelt would initially be wary of getting involved in the war in Europe, however, with the fall of France and a mostly democratic Germany on it's heels he would push England into coming to Germany's aid. In 1941, Austria would announce the reformation of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. President Roosevelt would die of a heart attack in 1944 while actively seeking reelection. The Democratic Party had put up a sacrificial ticket that everyone assumed would lose, and the Republican Party quickly re-nominated VP Arthur Vandenberg for President. Vandenberg would win the election. In 1945, Spain would claim victory over Germany and launch an attack against the United States in Cuba. Vandenberg would ask for and receive a declaration of war from Congress. The United States entry into World War Two would push England over the edge to help the German-French Alliance.

 1948 - The war continues but President Vandenberg opts against seeking another term. The alliances are as follows: Retribution Alliance - Spain, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Romania (AH Empire), Bulgaria (AH Empire), Italy, Poland, Turkey, Japan, Argentina and the Monde Alliance - France (defeated) and Germany (mostly defeated), England, United States, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Brazil. The 1948 election is won by Vice President and former New York Governor Thomas Dewey.

1952 – World War Two ends with the signing of the Peace Accord at Madrid. The Retribution Alliance’s offensive failed after their forces attacked a Soviet battalion in 1949 they mistook for enemies on the Polish-Soviet border. The USSR would declare war and combined with a US invasion in 1950, the Monde Alliance would declare victory in early 1952. Spain would be broken up into several new countries including Galicia, Catalonia, Leon and others.  Italy would have a Democratic government installed. However communist sympathizers would be democratically elected in both Germany and France as a result.  Dewey would be seen as a hero and would keep getting reelected until he opted not to run in 1960.

1956 – The nations economy would surge as Americans came home from war. A cold front would form in Europe with an emerging French-German-Soviet communist alliance.

1960 – Humphrey would try a second time for the Presidency and win, defeating former VP Earl Warren. Humphrey would push to warm relations with France and Germany despite their communist leaning democratic governments.

1964 – Humphrey is reelected by a narrow margin narrowly beating out the first female major party presidential nominee. The economy slows down during Humphrey’s term which is also marked by his refusal to commit US forces to overthrow the rise of dictatorships in Central America.

1968 – Margaret Chase Smith tries again for the presidency and loses to Vice President Averell Harriman. President Harriman

1972 – Harriman is assassinated after the Democratic National Convention by a communist sympathizer. Vice President, now President, Johnson is inaugurated and declared the Democratic nominee. Harriman had been down in the polls but Johnson surges due to Harriman’s death and wins the presidency. Johnson dies two days into his first full term of heart failure.

1976 - McGovern's term in office is marked by an economic depression, inflation, gas shortage and what is perceived to be a weakening of the United States abroad. He is sounded defeated in November 1976.

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« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2016, 02:17:57 PM »

45. Donald Trump: 2017-2021 *
46. Pocahontas: 2021-2029
47. Cory Gardner: 2029-2037


*Served only one term
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« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2016, 01:58:56 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2016, 02:50:59 PM by sentinel »

Presidents of the United States
Congress elects a lifetime ceremonial president
1. George Washington, Virginia, No Affiliation, 1789 - 1832
2. Henry Clay, Kentucky, Anti-Federalist, 1832 - 1852
3. John Bell, Tennessee, Augmentum, 1852 - 1869
4. John W. Foster, Indiana, Augmentum, 1869 - 1917
5. Theodore Roosevelt, New York, Bull Moose, 1917 - 1919
6. Hiram Johnson, California, Bull Moose, 1919 - 1945
7. Robert M. La Follette Jr., Wisconsin, Bull Moose, 1945 - 1953
8. Sam Rayburn, Texas, Innovation, 1953 - 1961
9. Dwight D. Eisenhower, Innovation, 1961 - 1969
10. Strom Thurmond, South Carolina, Dixie, 1969 - 2003
11. Colin Powell, New York, Innovation, 2003 - Present

Augmentum = 65 years
No Affiliation = 43 years
Bull Moose = 36 years
Dixie = 34 years
Innovation = 29 years


Prime Ministers of the United States
1. John Adams, Massachusetts, Federalist Party, 1789 - 1793
2. Thomas Jefferson, Virginia, Anti-Federalist Coalition, 1793 - 1797
3. Jonathan Dayton, New Jersey, Federalist, 1797 - 1799
4. Thomas Jefferson, Virginia, Anti-Federalist, 1799 - 1801
5. Joseph Bradley Varnum, Anti-Federalist/Jeffersonian Party, 1801 - 1807
6. James Madison, Jeffersonian, 1807 - 1817

7. John Bell, Tennessee, Federalist, 1817 - 1821
8. James Madison, Jeffersonian, 1821 - 1823
9. Rufus King, New York, Federalist, 1823 - 1827
10. John E. Howard, Maryland, Federalist, 1827 - 1827
11. James Monroe, Virginia, Jeffersonian, 1827 - 1835
12. James K. Polk, Tennessee, Federalist/Augmentum, 1835 - 1849
13. Howell Cobb, Georgia, Augmentum Party, 1849 - 1851
14. Winfield Scott, New Jersey, Jeffersonian, 1851 - 1857
15. James Buchanan, Pennsylvania, Augmentum, 1857 - 1861
Civil war begins in 1859 and ends with Northern victory in 1863
16. Abraham Lincoln, Illinois, Jeffersonian, 1861 - 1865
17. Hannibal Hamlin, Maine, Jeffersonian, 1865 - 1867
18. Schuyler Colfax, Indiana, Augmentum, 1867 - 1875
19. John G. Carlisle, Kentucky, Dixie Party, 1875 - 1881
20. Grover Cleveland, New York, Majority Party, 1881 - 1908
21. William Jennings Bryan, Majority, 1908 - 1909
22. Theodore Roosevelt, Bull Moose, 1909 - 1917
23. Frederick H. Gillett, Bull Moose, 1917 - 1921
24. Calvin Coolidge, Massachusetts, Bull Moose, 1921 - 1923
25. Henry Thomas Rainey, Illinois, Majority, 1923 - 1925
26. Calvin Coolidge, Massachusetts, Bull Moose, 1925 - 1927
27. Joseph W. Byrns, Sr., Tennessee, Majority, 1927 - 1929
28. Calvin Coolidge, Massachusetts, Bull Moose, 1929 - 1933
29. Joseph T. Robinson, Arkansas, Bull Moose, 1933 - 1933
30. Sam Rayburn, Texas, Innovation Party, 1933 - 1941
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt, New York, Bull Moose, 1941 - 1945
32. Alf Landon, Kansas, Bull Moose, 1945 - 1947
33. John Bricker, Ohio, Innovation, 1947 - 1961
34. Strom Thurmond, South Carolina, Dixie, 1961 - 1963
35. Estes Kefauver, Tennessee, Majority, 1963 - 1969
36. Strom Thurmond, South Carolina, Dixie, 1969 - 1969
37. Estes Kefauver, Tennessee, Majority, 1969 - 1971
38. George Bender, Ohio, Bull Moose, 1971 - 1979
40. Edmund Muskie, Maine, Innovation, 1979 - 1996
41. Howard Baker, Tennessee, Innovation, 1996 - 1999
42. Robert Dole, Kansas, Bull Moose, 1999 - 2001
43. Steny Hoyer, Maryland, Innovation, 2001 - 2005
44. Rahm Emmanuel, Illinois, Bull Moose, 2005 - Present

Bull Moose Party = 46 years in power
Federalist Party/Augmentum Party = 44 years  
Jeffersonian Party/Anti-Federalists = 44 years
Innovation Party = 43 years
Majority Party = 41 years
Dixie Party = 9 years

The Majority Party formed as an alliance to oppose the Dixie Party. When Strom Thurmond took control of the House, his sole goal was to elevate himself to the presidency. Prime Minister Kefauver was blamed for allowing Thurmond to reach that goal which marked the end of Bull Moose-Innovation cooperation.

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« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2016, 04:57:10 PM »

What exactly are the major differences between the Bull Moose and Innovation parties, in the modern context?

Bull Moose = Closer to current Democrats but less corporate oriented...Innovation = more like Rockefeller Republicans. Didn't really think it completely through TBH
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« Reply #61 on: December 19, 2016, 05:01:06 PM »

Presidents of the United States

43. Albert J. Gore Jr. - Democrat, Tennessee, January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
Defeats Governor George W. Bush, Republican of Texas
44. John S. McCain - Republican, Arizona, January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
Defeats President Albert J. Gore Jr., Democrat of Tennessee
45. Jeanne Shaheen - Democrat, New Hampshire, January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2013
Defeats President John S. McCain, Republican of Arizona
46. John S. McCain - Republican, Arizona, January 20, 2013 - January 20, 2017
Defeats President Jeanne Shaheen, Democrat of New Hampshire
47. Barack H. Obama - Democrat, Illinois - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2025
Defeats Vice President Brian Sandoval, Republican of Nevada in 2016; Defeats Governor Nikki Hayley, Republican of South Carolina in 2020

2000:



VP Al Gore (D-TN) / Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - 292 EV, 48.4% PV
Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX) / Sec. Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 246 EV, 47.9% PV

2004:



Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) / Gov. Tom Ridge (R-PA) - 306 EV, 51% PV
Pres. Al Gore (D-TN) / VP Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - 232 EV, 48% PV

2008:


Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) / VP Barack Obama (D-IL) - 304 EV, 50% PV
Pres John McCain (R-AZ) / VP Tom Ridge (R-PA) - 234 EV, 48% PV

2012:



Fmr. Pres John McCain (R-AZ) / Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 269 EV, 49.8%
Pres. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) / VP Barack Obama (D-IL)  - 269 EV, 48.1%
A faithless Elector in New Mexico throws their vote to John McCain making the actual results 270-268

2016:



Fmr. VP Barack Obama (D-IL) / Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 348 EV, 51% PV
Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) / Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), 190 EV, 47% PV

2020:



Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL) / VP Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 313 EV, 52% PV
Gov. Nikki Hayley (R-SC) / Gov. Charlie Baker (R-MA), 225 EV, 48% PV
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