Was PA-13 an upset?

[TeePee4Prez]

The outcome- NO. The margin- YES.

[TeePee4Prez]

The outcome- NO.

Now who was the idiot that said this...

My prediction is if Torsella pulls it out it would be his to win marginally.  Otherwise, Melissa Brown if she can hide her truly economically right wing views and hit on Section 8 hard.

I wasn't enitrely wrong.  She defended Bush on most economic issues. Schwartz made her pay!  And yes I'll admit, Brown might have done better had she mentioned Section 8 more. 

[TeePee4Prez]

Let's clear this up.  At April 28th, 2004, I think PA 13 was a pure tossup.  About 2-3 weeks after Labor Day, I think it was fairly obvious Schwartz was winning.  The Republicans on primary day had very high turnout.  Northeast Philadelphia for some reason had very low turnout in general that day.  Funny Al Taubenberger almost won the NE.  He actually won my ward and defintitely the 63rd which is his home.

[TeePee4Prez]

I don't think it was an upset since this seat had been held by a Democrat and the district was won easily by Gore and presumably Kerry.

Thanks for showing you know nothing about this district.

This district went big for Ed Rendell in 2002 yet Brown (R) only lost by four points to an incumbent that many felt would have an easy re-election.

nclib has a semi-point.  Brown in 2002, was a surprise she did so well.  She caught that race off guard with Section 8 housing fears.  No one prior to that used the issue or addressed it until then.  Melissa Brown used the "magic card" so to say and still couldn't win.  You and I both know it gave her 20 points in Northeast Philadelphia.  It can never be used again though and that's the beauty part.  

[TeePee4Prez]

Hoeffel never did well in that district and Kerry's margin was too much for Brown to overcome.

Yes I realize that you know much more about the district than I do, but I consider an upset when a Republican wins in a reliably Democratic district.

If you knew the district, you would realize someone like Schwartz is clearly out of touch with this district.

Says you.