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I meant once, but it doesnt really matter cause the taxpayers are sick of her scare tactics and she will lose just like twice before. And thats my final word cause you dont go out and you sit on this website for hours upon hours and fight with people about petty bullsh**t so later.

You've been saying that you were leaving for about ten minutes now. Is it that hard to log out for you? (Also, to clear something up for you since you have no idea what I do outside of school/this forum, I do go out and have a non-political social life.)

Hey Demoteen, I find this hard to believe considering he has made over 2700 posts in two months.  WOW!  Keystone, you should go to Egypt for Teen night at some point.  I know they still have it because my sister's 15.

Now you want to make this personal too, IrishDem? You ought to talk about being on the forum a lot...I mean you're what...24 years old? Don't you have anything better to do?

I've been on here 3 months longer than you and you have almost twice as many posts.  That's pretty sad.  I'm on here because I work nights and I need to unqind while everyone else is asleep.  Now I don't have a girlfriend, but I am at Finnegans Wake, Top Dog, Flatspin, Chickie's & Pete's or wherever hooking myself up every weekend.  Steady relationship??? On a personal note, it is excessively difficult to find someone I'm capable of setling with.      

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2700 posts in only 2 mos. is pretty bad.  Most people my age have different job schedules and relationships so there is some idle time for me.  I like to debate issues as well and there is nothing wrong with it.  You seem to love attacking Demoteen04 and myself very quickly.  Ok, so I bring in another Young Dem.  What are you going to always act this childish?  Ok, I kind of bust your balls on the Santorum pic, but I live with it and add my own stuff.  Instead of just laughing at it, you take personal offense to it like I'm attacking your mother.  I don't exactly echo everything Demoteen says, but there is a lot to be questioned.  

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Ok, just because this kid goes to your high school and doesn't agree with me you have to attack him.


I GOT THE MAGIC STICK!!!!  

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Ok, just because this kid goes to your high school and doesn't agree with me you have to attack him.


I GOT THE MAGIC STICK!!!!  

I'm not attacking the kid and I'm not having this argument anymore. This kid wants to cause trouble on the forum. Let's get back to the good 'ol PA 13 debates, not the name calling and childish attacks.

Deal!  Always good to switch it up every once in a while to break the monotony.

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Is this the Pennsylvania b*tch thread? All you guys do is argue! Get a room already!

Aww are you jealous?

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I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

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I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

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I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

Patients suing for about 3 million dollars for non-economic reasons is the problem, IrishDem.

What you fail to realize is that a patient even rightfully suing a doctor that f-ed up is about 1 of 8 because most lawyers won't take and the chances of winning even after a lawyers takes it is 1 of 20!!!  Classic Melissa Brown and another divide and conquer scheme based on false premises.  Fortunately I am a good juror and my verdict for her will be NO SALE!!!

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I don't know if you saw, IrishDem, but Brown just gave a short speech at the convention about Healthcare reform.

I seen a transcript because I had work.  Too short and she misses a lot of points about why there is a REAL malpractice crisis.  Remeber, she and her husband ran an insurance company into the ground so she kinda wants to avoid that topic.

First of all it had to be short. They had speakers from the top Congressional races throughout the country speaking so they couldn't get up there and give a 15 minute speech. Secondly, med mal has been a major topic in her campaign and has been doing much more than Schwartz when it comes to discussing why there is a REAL crisis. Finally, I don't think your story about the insurance company is true. She was a pretty successful buisnesswoman, a successful physician, author of quite a few medical publications...so to say she wants to avoid this issue is pretty foolish.

Oh, she doesn't want to avoid the issue, but I feel she's blaming the wrong people.  She is avoiding the reasons WHY there is a crisis.  Patients and trial lawyers are an easier target than med mal insurance companies.

Patients suing for about 3 million dollars for non-economic reasons is the problem, IrishDem.

 Fortunately I am a good juror and my verdict for her will be NO SALE!!!

You must think these up in advance or something. Anyway, Happy Labor Day. Let the campaigning begin!

In advance?? I don't think so.  I have very good factual knowledge on these things.  Just wondering who is you MUN moderator?  On a more personal note I tried to sue an @sshole doctor myself and the lawyer gave me these stats.  Don't ask about details of the case.  This is a small part of the reason I am not voting for Melissa brown.  

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Roosevelt Blvd. (US 1 for those out of town) was a sweet sight today and I also saw one lawn sign of Allyson Schwartz going to work!  Yeah, Melissa Brown will roll out in a few days along with her usual dirty campaigning.  LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

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It seems like Brown is very popular with the law enforcement community especially if you compare her and Schwartz...

http://www.politicspa.com/Press_Releases/090704brown.htm

And CNN has PA 13 as one of the top four "Hot" Congressional races

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/house/index.html

Melissa Brown's popularity with law enforcement does NOTHING to sway my vote.  I find most cops are Republicans anyway, but for some reason many FOPs in the past have endorsed Democrats.  There are too many unions in the district that are supporting Schwartz that will swamp her (Local 98, Steamfitters, etc.)  Plus the vote everyhwere else plus the drastic increase in liberalism in Montgomery County may be too much for Brown to overcome.  Non-law enforcement residents of Northeast Philly are feeling the economic pinch and more times than none vote Demcoratic.  Cops and firemen have very good salary, benefits, and job security second to none so they obviously have more of a luxury to focus on issues such as crime and punishment when making their decisions at the polls.  I DON'T!  Raggage this is not meant to offend you because you're a cool cop that sees a lot of things and I respect that.  I share your desire to remove our Prick Senator Santorum.  A good number, though not all of Northeast Philadelphia cops have that blase, "I can f--k with anyone I want, I hate ni--ers" Republican attitude though.  I really think if I were African American, I would have been in the hospital for the underage drinking I did at Rec centers instead of being told "conceal your 40 son".  Melissa Brown appeals to this menatlity very much and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable.

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Roosevelt Blvd. (US 1 for those out of town) was a sweet sight today and I also saw one lawn sign of Allyson Schwartz going to work!  Yeah, Melissa Brown will roll out in a few days along with her usual dirty campaigning.  LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

Also, Schwartz is the only one with the "dirty" campaigning right now. All she does is accuse Brown of this and that and doesn't back a single thing up! Unlike Brown who has focused her campaign on issues important to voters.

Go to Allyson's website.  She backs it up pretty well.  Brown has focused on issues important to HER, not the voters of the NE.  She wants to find an easier target to reduce her insurance premiums, so she figured she can attack the supposed "outargeousness of lawsuits."

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As I have said for about the 100th time yes Section 8 is important to the voters as it is to me.  It's more a matter of where they prioritize it.  As for medical malpractice, of course no one wants to see their doctors leave.  The fact is it's pointless to mention Section 8 in a FEDERAL campaign.  Also, as I have said about 50 times before, the issue of doctors leaving because of their increasing premiums lies with the INSURANCE COMPANY!  

It should be a matter of where you stand on the other issues and speaking for the Northeast as broadly as you do is outrageous.  I think on issues such as the war, energey independence, taxes, abortion, the death penalty, I have stated my postions quite clearly.

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As I have said for about the 100th time yes Section 8 is important to the voters as it is to me.  It's more a matter of where they prioritize it.  As for medical malpractice, of course no one wants to see their doctors leave.  The fact is it's pointless to mention Section 8 in a FEDERAL campaign.  Also, as I have said about 50 times before, the issue of doctors leaving because of their increasing premiums lies with the INSURANCE COMPANY!  

It should be a matter of where you stand on the other issues and speaking for the Northeast as broadly as you do is outrageous.  I think on issues such as the war, energey independence, taxes, abortion, the death penalty, I have stated my postions quite clearly.

I think PA 13 would benefit if Section 8 was eliminated.

Thanks for chiming in.  Can you please tell me what other Congressional Districts are in Northeast Philadelphia or what Steak places are there?  I didn't think so!  Instead of making broad based assupmtions, you might want to think of putting more detail into your posts.  If you have good knowledge of the district, I'd like to hear it.  Otherwise, just let me and KeystonePhil answer your questions.  Thank you.  

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Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

I'm still scratching my head over that one, but my best guess is Allyson Schwartz endorsed Alex Talamadge during the DA primary in 2001 over Lynne Abraham.  I'm thinking this is payback, but I'm not so sure.  Bear with me I just realized this.

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Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

I'm still scratching my head over that one, but my best guess is Allyson Schwartz endorsed Alex Talamadge during the DA primary in 2001 over Lynne Abraham.  I'm thinking this is payback, but I'm not so sure.  Bear with me I just realized this.

Well I hope that you will now take back the ridiculous comment about how Brown received that endorsement (even though I find this reasoning about "payback" ridiculous too).

I take it back, but I was just taking a wild, yet somewhat valid guess.   The "payback" reasoning is NOT ridiculous because the FOP loves Abraham and Schwartz's endorsement of Talamadge in 2001 may have set off an old spark.

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Speaking of questions that should be answered IrishDem, why don't you answer the one I posted before. This question is in referrence to Brown and the FOP endorsement and the foolish statement you made on why she received it...

I really shouldn't be wasting my time responding to the stupidity of your post but I had a question: Brown, in your opinion, "appeals to this mentality and the FOP's endorsement was very predictable." Well first of all, Brown does not appeal to that mentality that you refer to and the Philly Dem party has to give up this "Brown is running a racist campaign." People are getting annoyed. But here is my question: If this FOP endorsement was so predictable because Brown "appeals to this mentality" that you speak of, does Mike Stack, Vince Fumo, Shirley Kitchen, Mike McGeehan, Alan Butkovitz, Mark Cohen, Dwight Evans, Jim Eisenhower, and Bob Casey appeal to that mentality too or are they exceptions because they are Democrats?

(Note: Those are just a few of the Democratic candidates endorsed by the Philadelphia FOP)

I'm still scratching my head over that one, but my best guess is Allyson Schwartz endorsed Alex Talamadge during the DA primary in 2001 over Lynne Abraham.  I'm thinking this is payback, but I'm not so sure.  Bear with me I just realized this.

Well I hope that you will now take back the ridiculous comment about how Brown received that endorsement (even though I find this reasoning about "payback" ridiculous too).

I take it back, but I was just taking a wild, yet somewhat valid guess.   The "payback" reasoning is NOT ridiculous because the FOP loves Abraham and Schwartz's endorsement of Talamadge in 2001 may have set off an old spark.

Do you know for certain that Schwartz backed Talamadge? And for some reason I keep thinking that Abraham endorsed Schwartz during the primary (I could be mistaken. Abraham endorsing Torsella wouldn't surprise me at all).

I'm certain Schwartz backed Talamadge.  Abraham backed Torsella in the primary.

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KeystonePhil, I was wondering.  Have you seen Sam Mirarchi's latest press release or his website?  I've seen both and have considered it.  YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME!!!  Do you honestly think I am going to buy this BS?  It has become a seemingly central theme within the Philadelphia GOP.  Because they can't do anything otherwise they have to resort to 2 tactics if all else fails:

1.  Bring up Section 8
2.  Tie your Democratic opponent to John Street

Dude, this is getting pathetic.  No, really!  The fact that the top of your ticket are @ssholes means at the local level your party has to resort such tactics to hopefully get elected.  Do you honestly think I should vote for someone that's 30, lives with his parents, and can't blurb out anythign else but Section 8?  While Brendan Boyle is 27, he had to learn the hard way and that's right....  HE DOESN'T LIVE WITH HIS PARENTS!!!  Boyle didn't live in a Pine Valley mansion like Mirarchi did and knows the middle class better. I mean I thought Melissa Brown was bad, but Sam Mirarchi is pathetic!    

 

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I brought up Mirarchi because he is trying to win on the same issue Melissa Brown is.  You were trying to get me to vote Mirarchi and I obviously grilled him.  Do I apologize for it? NO!  Hey, Miek Stack has to WORK in the State Senate.  Mirarchi has the luxury of going around to meet and greet voters.  I could care less about who is cmapigning where, I want someone that has my best interests.  Mike Stack did get quite a few things accomplished such as expanding PACE and his fighting against the closing of firehouses and the outrageous PGW surchrages.  All Sam Mirarchi has done is criticize, but he has no real plans other than Section 8.  I am angry and have every right to be because he thinks I should vote for him over that issue alone.  Does he honestly think I'm that stupid?  I'm going to create another thread in Individual Politics pointing out some of the GOP tactics.    

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By the way, nice article in the Times.  I understand you want to express your opinion to the voters of Northeast Philadelphia.  Next time COME UP WITH SOME FACTS before you falsely bash Allyson Schwartz.  Melissa Brown does indeed have a horrendous history of negative campaigning and making false accusations against both Joe Hoeffel in the past and now Allyson Schwartz.  Oh and did you read the Mike Stack article?  Well, that just proves what I've been trying to tell you all along.  If you think I'm going to publicly respond to that in the paper, you must be dreaming!  

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The NE Times doesn't get to my house till Tomorrow so I figured I'd check out the site. I was reading the letters to the editor and I was wondering if you saw the one about Schwartz's signs? Didn't I tell you people will be mad that she is littering every major roadway with a sign every two feet?

The person probably wasn't going to vote for her anyway.  He was making an excuse not to.  Yes, Keystone there will be Democrats voting Brown unfortunately.  Brown will go on her littering rampage as she has done in the past as well.  She is also an offennder of those tacky utility pole signs.

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I also forgot about Ginny Schrader and Lois Murphy.  LET'S HEAR IT FOR ALL DA LADIES IN DA HOUSE!!!! (US House literally)  CAN I GET A WUT! WUT!

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Hey KeystonePhil, your buddy John Perzel has his hands nice and dirty again.  If you think John Street is corrupt take a look at this:

Forced Contributions to GOP?
PHILADELPHIA-September 14, 2004 — Employees of the Republican-
controlled Philadelphia Parking Authority said they were told by
their superiors to contribute to the GOP, or risk losing their jobs,
a newspaper reported.
Five employees said they were pressured on the job to contribute
$275 per year, the Philadelphia Daily News reported for Tuesday
editions. Campaign finance records show dozens of $100 contributions
this year from workers making $25,000 or less.

State law forbids demanding political contributions from public
employees or contractors.

"It's extortion," said Michael J. Vecchione, who was hired two years
ago to work in the authority's impoundment lots. The four other
employees spoke to the Daily News on condition of anonymity.

Vecchione, 38, said he had been on the job about a month when his
supervisor asked him to buy a $100 ticket to the Republican City
Committee's fall dinner.

"I told her, "I'm not really a political person.' Then she told
me, 'You should understand, this is a patronage job and you have to
buy three tickets a year.' At that time, I refused to pay, but two
days later another supervisor came up and said I was still under
probation. If I didn't buy the tickets they could fire me."

Vecchione said he got another call from a woman in the office of
state House Republican leader John Perzel. Perzel, now the House
speaker, engineered the Republican Party's takeover of the Parking
Authority from the Democratic-controlled city in 2001.

"I told her, no one ever told me before I was hired about buying
these tickets. And she said, 'I'm telling you now,"' Vecchione said.

Prompted by an inquiry from the newspaper, the Parking Authority's
executive director, Joseph M. Egan Jr., sent a memo to all 823
authority employees last week warning them that they could be fired
for soliciting money on the job or threatening workers who refuse to
contribute.

"Employees must be free from any pressure, real or perceived, to
contribute to any activity or group," Egan said.

Parking Authority employees also said they had been asked to work
the polls. Several said the political activity appeared to be
organized by Vincent J. Fenerty, Egan's top deputy and a Republican
ward leader.

Fenerty denied pressuring employees to make a political
contribution, but acknowledged accepting a $100 donation from
Vecchione on authority time. Fenerty, however, described Vecchione
as a "disgruntled employee" and said Vecchione approached him with
the $100.

Vecchione said Fenerty had pressured him for the money.


Oh and by the way, have they found anything on Street?  Still waiting here!  Not that Street's a good mayor, but I love how the GOP is trying to grab everything for themselves... The Parking Authority, Philly International Airport, SEPTA, the Public Schools, and I'm sure many more things.  For being such a Democratic stronghold ripe with corruption from within you have to wonder.  I starting to think most of the crap is coming from you guys.  John Perzel and Rick Santorum are lovely Mob poster boys.  Melissa Brown and the whole Section 8 thing is a joke.  It looks ever so lovely that Ryan Ave. west of Cottman Ave has Perzel and Brown signs from door to door.  Gee, wonder how much they're paying for advertisement or worse yet extortion.      

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John Perzel and Rick Santorum are lovely Mob poster boys.  Melissa Brown and the whole Section 8 thing is a joke.  It looks ever so lovely that Ryan Ave. west of Cottman Ave has Perzel and Brown signs from door to door.  Gee, wonder how much they're paying for advertisement or worse yet extortion.      

This is where your arguments aren't taken seriously. I guess now your accusing Perzel and Brown of forcing residents to put up lawn signs? I wouldn't be surprised if you are...

(By the way, your signature gives me a good laugh. )

It's sure odd there's an overwhelming amount of Brown support is such a concentrated area and near Perzel's office.  It's funny once you pass that little sector, Schwartz signs sporadically resume.  Oh, I'm sorry your drug company Representative George Kenney is on his way out!  I'm just illustrating how pathetic your party is while they should be targeting my vote considering the widespread disenchantment with Street and the city Dems.  You guys accuse the city Dems of corruption and "pay to play" yet you guys are worse!  I'll just stick with my ideology thank you!  

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John Perzel and Rick Santorum are lovely Mob poster boys.  Melissa Brown and the whole Section 8 thing is a joke.  It looks ever so lovely that Ryan Ave. west of Cottman Ave has Perzel and Brown signs from door to door.  Gee, wonder how much they're paying for advertisement or worse yet extortion.      

This is where your arguments aren't taken seriously. I guess now your accusing Perzel and Brown of forcing residents to put up lawn signs? I wouldn't be surprised if you are...

(By the way, your signature gives me a good laugh. )

It's sure odd there's an overwhelming amount of Brown support is such a concentrated area and near Perzel's office.  It's funny once you pass that little sector, Schwartz signs sporadically resume.  Oh, I'm sorry your drug company Representative George Kenney is on his way out!  I'm just illustrating how pathetic your party is while they should be targeting my vote considering the widespread disenchantment with Street and the city Dems.  You guys accuse the city Dems of corruption and "pay to play" yet you guys are worse!  I'll just stick with my ideology thank you!  

Have you ever taken a drive around the district, IrishDem? I promise you that Brown signs are not just in Perzel's area. Yes, there are Schwartz signs that pop up here and there but there is no doubt in my mind that Brown has much more.

And I don't understand what you mean when you say the GOP should be targeting your vote. You complain about how the Philly GOP points out Street and other disliked Philly city Dems and the bad job they are doing yet you want them to continue doing it? It makes no sense at all.

I'm beginning to realize corruption is ripe on both sides.  The GOP could take the high road and possibly have gotten my vote.  Instead, Perzel and Co. are equally as bad, if not worse than Street.  ON the national level, it's a lot worse.  I kind of bought into the fact that City Hall was corrupt and rightfully so, but the GOP's selling point locally was they weren't.  There is a very good reason the GOP is outnumbered 4 to 1 in Philadelphia.