Thread for "What If" stories.....

[MasterJedi]

Well I'm going to start writing a novel about US imperialism that starts at the Polk presidency!

I'll post some here as I write it!

[MasterJedi]

Yea, yea I know that but I'm actually going to write a novel about it, not a short time line!

It's going  to be WAY different from that anyway!

[MasterJedi]

How is everyone manipulating the maps? (not the one from the site) but the ones where you can do the whole world and such so I can expand the US.

[MasterJedi]

Sorry for the double post, I didn't think I'd get this done so soon.

2004:

The Presidential election drags on with neither side gaining a permanent lead. John Kerry picks John Edwards as his Vice President in hope to lure some southern states. Throughout the year the economy keeps increasing with thousands of new jobs created brining the total up to 2.8 million jobs returned to the public. The Iraqi conflict being a thorn in President Bush’s side even though the condition doesn’t improve. In late October, taking the initiative, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld resign and are replaced with Rudy Giuliani as Vice President and John McCain as Secretary of Defense.
With their help President Bush retains the presidency with a larger gap then expected.

Bush/Giuliani: 359
Kerry/Edwards: 179

2005:

While swearing in President Bush Al-Queda launches a massive terrorist attack on Washington DC by dozens of suicide bombers. While most of the attack is prevented some small pockets go off killing under 50 people, among which, Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich. The year goes by regularly quietly with several major protests against the US in Ontario, Canada and France and a couple hundred thousand of new jobs being created and unemployment falling to 4.6%.

2006:

When Congress reopens President Bush introduces three monumental bills. The first to activate the National Guard and round up all illegal aliens. in the US and sending them back to Mexico along with sealing off the southern boarder to all illegal traffic and to shoot anyone on site no questions asks. The second is to have a vote in Puerto Rico for either statehood or freedom, no “stay the way we are” vote allowed. The third is to ban abortion from 8 weeks on, the reason is that the fetus gets a heartbeat at that date and nothing without a heartbeat is alive. Debate rages on all three issues and the Puerto Rico bill easily passes by early July. Meanwhile Israel launches massive attacks on Palestinian settlements in early February and has succeeded in driving most of them out of Israel and into Syria.

2007:

Puerto Rico votes in mid-March and the vote is overwhelmingly in favor of Statehood with a vote of 98% for statehood to 2% for independence. Puerto Rico becomes the 51st state on April 1st. By late April Congress has grudgingly passed the last two bills and massive raids begin throughout the country. 30,000 illegals from all countries are detained and shipped back to their country of origin. The National Guard is now posted along the boarder with Mexico and is supplied with state-of-the-art military weaponry for the job at hand. Illegal immigration suddenly comes to a halt as the bodies begin to pile up along the boarder and the flow north begins to slacken. Most abortions also drop dramatically and the future looks in great shape. Rudy Giuliani announces he is seeking the Republican nomination for President in the 2008 election. A host of Democrats also throw in their names with none other than Hillary Clinton. By late 2007 Syria, Lebanon and Egypt have raised massive armies and aimed them at the heart of Israel.

2008:

Hillary and Rudy barely scrape thorough the primaries and caucuses with a majority lead of less than 15 delegates each. Both candidates pick their Vice Presidential candidates early in the election, Hillary with her husband, Bill Clinton, and Rudy with Jeb Bush. Nader also announces that he’ll run for the Progressive Party yet again and throws a surprise punch by nominating Howard Dean as his Vice Presidential candidate.. Israel’s armies have defeated the three opposing nations by early July and completely annexed all of Syria and Lebanon and all the Sinai Peninsula. The campaigning goes on as normal with Hillary’s popularity falling throughout the campaign. On election day Puerto Rico votes for the first time and it comes in at a complete tie early in the night. With Congress still in cession and still in Republican hands they quickly vote for all the electoral votes to go to Rudy. In the end the election throws a major surprise winning Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey and Delaware.

Giuliani/Bush: 408
Clinton/Clinton: 94
Nader/Dean: 44

Rudy wins in a virtual landslide and with Nader’s upset the Progressive Party gains federal funds and the US officially gains a third party!

[MasterJedi]

The Timeline isn't going to be totally republican, in about 15-16 years there will be shocks!

[MasterJedi]

Well I got another 4 years done!

2009:

President Bush finishes out his term without much incident with the economy booming. Rudy is sworn in during a freak snow storm with many people wondering if this is a sign of the future to come. They don’t have to wait long because the next day, with the death toll soaring along the southern boarder Mexico launches a large scale attack on the southwestern US. Hoping the National Guard forces would break easily and with a transition of power taking place they could win the war within a matter of weeks. Luck not on their side the Mexican forces stall at Del Rio Texas, Columbus New Mexico, Bisbee Arizona and Calexico California. With a slow but steady pace the US forces push back the Mexican aggressors south until Mexico City is surrounded and under bombardment. Forced with the obliteration of the government Vicente Fox surrenders and gives a peace offering of 8 billion dollars and the states of Chihuahua, Sonora and the entire Baja peninsula. With the war over by early November and the public beginning to gain interest in space, Rudy funnels half of the money garnered from Mexico into former President Bush’s dream of having bases on the moon and mars.

2010:

With a large UN backlash at the US for the war with Mexico, France and Germany push a trade embargo on the US along with giving back all territory that had once been Mexico. The measure fails horribly with all nations except some Middle Eastern ones voting against it. Going against the UN, France and Germany go ahead with it anyway and all trade is cut with the US. With the UN scare over, Rudy sends the money into development on hydrogen and oxygen cars. In early December Rudy also introduces a bill into Congress to start drilling in small, selective parts of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The rumblings of trouble begin to be heard in Canada, our neighbor to the north.

2011:

Early in the year Sudan is re-instated again as the head of the Human Rights Commission. The US protests it with every tooth and nail but with no change in site the US pulls out of the UN. With the sudden pullout the UN goes into a frenzy, trying to keep itself together but with little hope. By mid-March the UN is completely disintegrated and beginning to slip from the publics mind. Israel begins its campaign against Egypt because of its complete takeover of the Suez Cannel. Rudy announces he is seeking a second term as President the day the Arctic Drilling bill is passed. In early June Alberta and Quebec proclaim they will secede from Canada unless they get equal representation in Ottawa. By late December without a Democratic candidate to come forward, Al Gore announces he will run for the Democratic nomination.

2012:

No one comes forward to challenge Gore so he wins every primary and caucus without even having to do any hard campaigning. He then picks Hillary Clinton thinking she will gain him votes in “Clinton” territory. Nader announces he won’t run for a fourth time but the Progressive Party’s supporters nominates him again anyway. He chooses Howard Dean again in light of no strong opposition for the position of Vice President. The situation in Canada reaches its boiling point as Alberta and Quebec secede. Troops are sent and Quebec is put down in a matter of weeks while Alberta resists stalwartly. Other western provinces begin to become disgusted at Ottawa’s reaction to the Alberta situation as Manitoba, Saskatchewan, British Columbia, Nunavut, the Yukon, and Northwestern Territories secede along with Alberta. Rudy proclaims in late October that he will send troops to help western Canada if he’s re-elected. As the oil drilling stations begin to pop up in northern Alaska a couple hundred new jobs are created for the native people. At the end of the campaign Rudy makes a trip through all 51 states in a late attempt to win more votes.

Giuliani/Bush: 413
Gore/Clinton: 70
Nader/Dean: 63

Rudy wins again in another landslide because of the Progressive Party draining the Democrat’s votes.

[MasterJedi]

No he won't be that old!

I'm planning on going forward a good couple of decades and probably a lot more than that!

[MasterJedi]

If that's how old he is now(and I'm not sure). Then yes, he would be 78. But he's in a lot better shape for his age then let's say Eisenhower!

[MasterJedi]

But you can tell in my story that he didn't want to run. His party nominated him so he went along with it otherwise he wouldn't have run!


I should have the next 4 years up later today, possible the next 8.

[MasterJedi]

Sorry for the double post again but I again didn't think this would be done so soon.

2013:

Israel defeats Egypt after the destructive 2 year war and annexes it entirely. Rudy enters an amendment into Congress after much pressuring by his Republican counterparts. The first of which bans gay marriage but allow civil unions. Most of the public is overjoyed and the still Republican controlled Congress passes the 28 amendment. Mass protests are held in Washington DC against President Giuliani and the Republican Party but with no acknowledgement of them they disband in record time. Rudy finally mobilizes a military and sends them north into Canadian territory. With their help the Canadian army already trapped in Northeastern Alberta is crushed. With the threat of the US army moving eastward, Canada surrenders and is given harsh terms. All of Western Canada plus Quebec is free and Canada has to disband all its military forces and is not able to rebuild for 30 years.

2014:

The Progressive Party in a stunning victory wins a large number of seats in the House of Representatives and the Senate making total 50% Republican, 25% Democrat, and 25% Progressive. The US annexes Western Canada and makes them territories. Only small local protests occur while the rest is indifferent to the change. The Democratic Party enters a bill that will allow the Mexican territories to vote for statehood. With a lean vote it passes with the help of the Progressives and a small number of Republicans. The vote is held late in the year and the results end with Baja (the entire peninsula): 62% statehood and 38% for remain as a territory while Sonora and Chihuahua vote 20% statehood and 80% to remain a territory. Baja enters the Union as the 52 state on December 1st with a total of 4 electoral votes. On Christmas day the new country of Quebec gives a good will gesture of all its land south of the St. Lawrence River for assuring its freedom from Canada.

2015:

The territory of Maritime (the land given by Quebec) holds a plebiscite for US statehood and the measure passes 70% for statehood, 20% for staying a territory, and 10% for freedom. With the measure passing it goes before the Congress and is granted statehood by another lean vote. Maritime because the 53 state on January 15 with 5 electoral votes. The Republicans are aghast at the 2 new states brought into the union and break up the 7 Canadian territories into 9. With the help of a few Progressives the bill passes and a vote is held in the Canadian territories. Vancouver (former Vancouver Island): 68% for statehood, 32% for remaining a territory. British Columbia: 64% for statehood, 36% for remaining a territory. Alberta: 88% for statehood, 12% for remaining a territory. Saskatchewan: 77% for statehood, 23% for remaining a territory. Manitoba: 65% for statehood, 35% for remaining a territory. Yukon: 90% for statehood, 10% for remaining a territory. Northwestern Territories: 71% for statehood, 29% for remaining a territory. Nunavut: 92% for statehood, 8% for remaining a territory. Arctica (all the islands that used to make up the Northwestern Territories and Nunavut): 73% for statehood, 27% for remaining a territory. All 9 territories enter the Union on June 5 with 3 electoral votes each. Vice President Jeb Bush announces he will run for the Republican nomination. The Democrats turn to Milton Mortar the virtual nobody that was recently elected Mayor of Los Angeles after a short campaign gave him tremendous support.

2016:

Jeb Bush wins the nomination with relative ease but his popularity plummets at the publics thought of another Bush in the white house. With no one opposing Milton Mortar he, like Al Gore is the undisputed Democratic Candidate. The Progressive Party churns out Dale Drew who will oppose the 2 main parties. Jeb Bush chooses Sean Hannity, the phenomenal radio and television star. Milton Mortar picks Henry Oper, the newly elected Democratic Governor of Florida. Dale Drew picks Katie Kern for his Vice Presidential candidate. With little happening the whole world is tuned into the fierce fight of the greatly enlarged US. Throughout the year Jeb Bush slowly regains his popularity after his horrible start. Republicans and Democrats are both confidant that they can win the states that they can win the states they just brought in so they limit their campaigning seriously in those areas. Election night is tense with serious upsets beginning to happen in Canada with the Alliance and Bloc Quebecois Party gaining some electoral votes. With John Apple and his Vice Presidential candidate Michael Moor for the Alliance Party and Louis LaRousse and Louis Biederman for the Block Quebecois Party.

Bush/Hannity: 323
Mortar/Oper: 113
Drew/Kern: 114
Apple/Moor: 27
LaRousse/Biederman: 5

Draining votes from the Republicans and Democrats helps the Progressive Party pull ahead of the Democrats! Even with the Alliance Parties campaigning down south in the original 50 states, they don’t get any support and announce that they will be joining the Republican Party.

[MasterJedi]

I'm an imperialist though so I don't think there are too many states!

2017:

After a fierce fight Jeb Bush is finally elected President. The US, still in control of the Iraqi Federation hands over the entirety of it to the newly declared Israeli Empire. Iran becomes enraged at the Shiite Muslims in former Iraq under Jewish control they declare war and invade. The US completely withdraws and leaves the immense Israeli army to crush the Iran scourge. Jeb announces he will ask Congress for another vote in the Mexican Territories for statehood to show that there are no hard feelings left from the election. England, having played no part in the Canadian Civil War finally gives Canada total freedom. Ontario, Canada rejoices while the eastern provinces are divided a little bit more. Quebec offers itself up for annexation by France and they’re accepted. French troops poor into Quebec and take up defensive positions around the US boarder and Canada.

2018:

Chihuahua and Sonora holds another vote for statehood. Chihuahua comes up 47% for statehood and 53% for remaining a territory. And Sonora comes up 51% for statehood and 49% for remaining a territory. To assure the public that there is no hard feelings Sonora is becomes the 63rd state to enter the Union on February 23 with 6 electoral votes even though it’s not a large enough majority. Unemployment which had reached a low of 2.8% under President Giuliani’s term rises to 3.5% by early March. Protests begin to form around the country and last most of the summer. Al-Queda which has fallen out of the mind of the public’s mind returns, with Libya as its host this time. Jeb calls for war with Libya and Congress passes the measure in fear of Al-Queda’s past acts.

2019:

Libya is crushed during the winter of early 2019 but some small pieces of Al-Queda has escaped to lie low in Africa. Osama Bin Laden’s body has been found in Libya and Congress feels that Al-Queda is gone and the threat is gone. The public is enraged by this war saying we had no reason to attack Libya even if Al-Queda was imbedded there. Jeb’s popularity takes another plunge as unemployment rises again to 4.8%. Massive protests are held in Washington DC calling for President Bush to resign. Jeb makes a speech and says that he will run for a 2nd term for President.

2020:

Jeb Bush wins the nomination easily with the loyal Republican base. The Democrats again nominate Milton Mortar and Henry Oper. The Progressive’s also try again with Dale Drew and Katie Kern. Louis LaRousse and Lous Biederman take up the call for the local Bloc Quebecois Party. The campaign rages with the Progressive’s making some large gains and the Republicans automatically getting the former Canadian states.

Bush/Hannity: 257
Mortar/Oper: 119
Drew/Kern: 207
LaRousse/Biederman: 5  

The Republicans win the election thanks to the former Canadian states and the west but the tide is turning. The Progressives have swept the Great Lakes states and kept their firm grip on the northeast. While the Democrats have kept their hold on the west coast and the former Mexican states. While the Bloc Quebecois Party again only stays strong in Maritime.

[MasterJedi]

No, but if Hillary dield he just couldn't become President!

[MasterJedi]

They will, they will just wait. As you can see the Republicans are losing popularity. I also said, "but times are changing". Next post will suit you!