College Football pick'em 2017- Gameplay and scoring thread

[MasterJedi]

Wisconsin at Illinois - lol, if wisconsin somehow loses this Penn State is secured

Penn State is on the other side of the division, so this does nothing really, if they lose to WI somehow it destroys them anyways. Personally I think WI will lose to MI and then either PS or Ohio in the Big 10 title game so meh, loved to be proved wrong.

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Week Ten

Wisconsin at Indiana - big upset pick of the week, Indiana stuns at home

This is my favorite pick.

It would be like Appalachian State defeating Michigan. Indiana has been basically an FCS team for a good two decades now at least.

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Week Ten

Wisconsin at Indiana - big upset pick of the week, Indiana stuns at home

This is my favorite pick.

It would be like Appalachian State defeating Michigan. Indiana has been basically an FCS team for a good two decades now at least.

#FakeNews. At least for the last 5 years, IU has been a mid-tier B1G team. Their statistical profile over the same time frame suggests a team in the 60th percentile of all FBS teams, or roughly top 50 (see http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa). rutger is a much worse team.

What's amusing about this statement is that Indiana is 1-2 against Rutgers.

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They took Michigan into overtime, Wisconsin hasn't really proven itself yet imo and I think they may be caught by surprise, it'll be a close game regardless, though. (Wisconsin is favored by 10.5 in the odds right now which I think is probably their ceiling)

Wisconsin's team isn't like last years. Last year if they had a QB and maybe 1-2 better receivers they could have contended for a title with that defense. Defense is still good, offense hasn't played a complete game all season. Indiana will be easy, Michigan and then Ohio State, not so.

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I O W A

Well, there goes the Big Ten's chances of making a playoff.

If Wisconsin wins out w/ wins against Iowa, Michigan and Minnesota with a win in the Big 10 Championship game could get in. Better resume at that point, someone else is likely to lose, also Oklahoma should be refused entrance for no defense. Yes, you scored 62 points, and gave up 52, it's like college basketball.

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Wisconsin held Iowa to 66 total yards of offense after they ran over Ohio State, still a criminally underrated defense the last two years. Too bad the offense isn't that good outside of the Oline and RB.

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The point is that they still wouldn't have the necessary wins under such a set of circumstances, but ok

And my point is staying unbeaten should be rewarded no matter who you are, or who you've beaten.

So using your logic, what's keeping an independent like BYU or Notre Dame from scheduling really bad teams every game of the season? They could easily have "muh undefeated record." Would they be worthy of getting into the playoff?

If they won all those games, yes. But pride would prevent Notre Dame from doing that, and someone is going to be willing to play BYU, if only to fill a hole on it's own schedule.

So you would support an undefeated team with a schedule full of cupcakes over a 1 loss major conference champion?

In almost every circumstance yes. There's a thing called the eye test too. If the one loss champion struggled all season, (Wisconsin for example), they don't deserve to get in.

Also, I wouldn't call UCF's next two games...against USF, and against Memphis in AAC Championship game cupcakes. Both teams only have one loss.

They don't pass the eye test, they haven't played anyone. They are worse than last years Western Michigan squad. I would totally leave them out, give them a top tear non-playoff bowl and let them get slapped down by some better conference team.

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The point is that they still wouldn't have the necessary wins under such a set of circumstances, but ok

And my point is staying unbeaten should be rewarded no matter who you are, or who you've beaten.

So using your logic, what's keeping an independent like BYU or Notre Dame from scheduling really bad teams every game of the season? They could easily have "muh undefeated record." Would they be worthy of getting into the playoff?

If they won all those games, yes. But pride would prevent Notre Dame from doing that, and someone is going to be willing to play BYU, if only to fill a hole on it's own schedule.

So you would support an undefeated team with a schedule full of cupcakes over a 1 loss major conference champion?

In almost every circumstance yes. There's a thing called the eye test too. If the one loss champion struggled all season, (Wisconsin for example), they don't deserve to get in.

Also, I wouldn't call UCF's next two games...against USF, and against Memphis in AAC Championship game cupcakes. Both teams only have one loss.

They don't pass the eye test, they haven't played anyone. They are worse than last years Western Michigan squad. I would totally leave them out, give them a top tear non-playoff bowl and let them get slapped down by some better conference team.

Western Michigan ended up beating Wisconsin last year, so arguably they were better than Washington, who actually made it into the playoff.

Also, UCF did beat Navy, who lost 24-17 to #8 Notre Dame today. That alone probably passes the eye test, doesn't it?

I don't get how with 4 teams in the playoff, we still get undefeated teams left out. This is one of the top 2 or 3 reasons everyone wanted to get rid of the BCS anyway. Maybe we should just give up on the playoff system and let the Rose Bowl decide the champion like in the old days.

So beating a team (Navy) who lost by 7 to a team (Notre Dame) who got beat by 33 by Miami automatically makes you one of the best 4 teams in the country? Makes a whole lot of sense doesn't it?

I’m not sure that’s the best way to look at things, because you start getting stupid stuff like LSU being better than Georgia this year because LSU beat Auburn and Auburn beat Georgia. Not to mention Troy. The transitive property doesn’t work in sports.

I think it’s a moot point, anyway, because UCF is likely going to lose to either USF or Memphis. However, if they win out, they should be in. They won’t be though, because the system is about money matchups.

An unbeaten UCF is in over a PAC-12 champion that isn't USC, a Big Twelve champion that is neither Oklahoma or TCU (theoretically Iowa State can still make the Championship game), a one Miami (FL) (the ACC isn't going to get two teams in) or a two loss Notre Dame.

Western Michigan beat Northwestern by 1 last year, they played a decent game against Wisconsin and lost. UCF needs to have actually beat someone to get in. They would lose by at least 21 to any top 10 team right now. They’re not good, everyone except you seems to know it, that’s why they will not even sniff a playoff spot.

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Jimbo out! Beloved assistant/D Line coach Odell Haggins will be interim for tomorrow.

Thanks for the memories CJF.

I knew it!!!

If I'm FSU, I'd chase someone like Mark Stoops (Head Coach, Kentucky), Gus Malzahn (Head Coach, Auburn), Ed Orgeron (Head Coach, LSU) and Dabo Swinney (Head Coach, Clemson)

Lol at this list. There is zero cance of Gus or Dabo leaving their respective positions (maybe except for Dabo to Alabama) for what is at best a lateral transfer, Orgeron is pretty unproven (lol Troy) and Stoops is nowhere near accomplished enough.

Jimbo leaving FSU is a big shocker though (at least to me, who doesn't follow FSU internals at all). I don't know why he would take what looks like a step down to go to TAMU unless he's going to try to pull a Mullen and get an offer from one of the highest-tier SEC schools. Was he pushed out by boosters he didn't get along with or something, like Bielema at Wisconsin? And that's not even the strangest story of the last week, and the season isn't even over! Jeez.

Bielema left Wisconsin because he needed more money to pay for his wife, that’s the real reason. Love how that “karma” tweet came back to bite her lol

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Jimbo out! Beloved assistant/D Line coach Odell Haggins will be interim for tomorrow.

Thanks for the memories CJF.

I knew it!!!

If I'm FSU, I'd chase someone like Mark Stoops (Head Coach, Kentucky), Gus Malzahn (Head Coach, Auburn), Ed Orgeron (Head Coach, LSU) and Dabo Swinney (Head Coach, Clemson)

Lol at this list. There is zero cance of Gus or Dabo leaving their respective positions (maybe except for Dabo to Alabama) for what is at best a lateral transfer, Orgeron is pretty unproven (lol Troy) and Stoops is nowhere near accomplished enough.

Jimbo leaving FSU is a big shocker though (at least to me, who doesn't follow FSU internals at all). I don't know why he would take what looks like a step down to go to TAMU unless he's going to try to pull a Mullen and get an offer from one of the highest-tier SEC schools. Was he pushed out by boosters he didn't get along with or something, like Bielema at Wisconsin? And that's not even the strangest story of the last week, and the season isn't even over! Jeez.

Bielema left Wisconsin because he needed more money to pay for his wife, that’s the real reason. Love how that “karma” tweet came back to bite her lol

Maybe this, I'm not plugged into Wisc football at all, but the prevailing reason at the time was that he was frustrated with Wisconsin's low assistant coach salary pool and the school's restrictive 'crootin rules (at least relative to the SEC). There was also some degree of tension that Alvarez was still exerting influence; Bielema apparently wanted more free reign.

Regardless, it definitely wasn't boosters pushing him out.

Also, Jen Bielema was kind of a b*tch with that tweet.

It is true that Wisconsin doesn't pay their assistants as well as other colleges, but the main reason he left was for the bigger salary because he has a young wife who is a big spender. Her lovely "Karma" tweet aged HORRIBLY.

This IS why Anderson left though, school wouldn't budge and let him recruit substandard players (academically) and he bolted. Was also trying to institute a spread offense and killed the walk-on program/recruiting in-state too.

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Do y’all think UCF will be ranked No. 2 in the final AP Poll?

No.

Also it was great seeing future bust Mayfield get caught on camera saying the game was over in the first half and then totally choke.

In addition, roll tide.