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Vosem
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« on: February 23, 2022, 03:01:30 PM »

https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1496553544886980614

NC-1 is comfortably Republican-voting under the VA/NJ result paradigm, since it's only Biden+7. It looks like the southern Mecklenburg seat is probably reasonably safe for Democrats nowadays even under GOP landslide conditions (though it probably voted R under these boundaries even in 2014); the Greensboro seat has something similar going.

I'd guess 9-5 for 2022 under this map, with a small Democratic recovery being good for 8-6 and a narrow Democratic year like 2020 possibly giving 7-7.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2022, 03:58:01 PM »

https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1496553544886980614

NC-1 is comfortably Republican-voting under the VA/NJ result paradigm, since it's only Biden+7. It looks like the southern Mecklenburg seat is probably reasonably safe for Democrats nowadays even under GOP landslide conditions (though it probably voted R under these boundaries even in 2014); the Greensboro seat has something similar going.

I'd guess 9-5 for 2022 under this map, with a small Democratic recovery being good for 8-6 and a narrow Democratic year like 2020 possibly giving 7-7.

Even Kay Hagan won the 2nd Charlotte seat.

Per Twitter Hagan won it by a single point in a year when she ran way ahead of most North Carolina Democrats. Very obviously Generic R won there in 2014. That said, I don't think it's winnable in 2022 unless Republicans significantly out-perform VA/NJ. (Which is possible -- Trafalgar has a good track record and they seem to think this is happening -- but I think whenever any party is out to a big lead in polling it's always safer to bet on reversion to the mean).

Put another way: under VA/NJ results, or current generic ballot polling, this map is currently 9R-5D. It would take a small improvement from current numbers for Republicans to win the greatest victory in 80 years, which would make this 11R-3D. But you're probably not going to bet on that, since they're winning by a lot already and that means they have very far to fall.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2023, 11:18:36 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2023, 11:39:00 AM by Vosem »

The Supreme Court has already ruled that there is not a VRA-protected congressional seat in northeastern North Carolina, because a black-majority seat would not be compact enough, back in 2017, and in fact that part of the opinion was literally unanimous. The area has not gotten more black since then; nor has the size of North Carolina congressional districts shrunk.

This is not to say that the state Senate proposals are legal -- I think I actually agree that if the Milligan precedent is applied consistently they are probably not. Right now it isn't being applied very consistently at all, though -- the Michigan state Senate map is much more clearly in violation, for instance. I also question how long Milligan will really remain a thing, both given the specifics of Kavanaugh's concurrence and that there will inevitably be disputes over it creating logical impossibilities in some areas.*

*Milligan says that, where it is possible to draw a "compact"** seat with a majority population for a particular minority racial group, a performing seat which would elect the candidate of their choice must be drawn. (It does not itself need to have a majority for that group). However, in Dallas/Fort Worth, this creates a logical impossibility, because it is pretty easy to draw a compact Hispanic-majority seat but it is very hard -- I think impossible -- to create a performing seat on account of low turnout. That's the only one I'm certain about, but I suspect others exist, too.

**What does this mean? Your guess is good as mine! Mobile-to-the-Black-Belt is compact, but rural northeastern North Carolina with tendrils to black parts of cities is not (neither is Charlotte-to-Greensboro, and neither is Jacksonville-to-Sanford-to-Orlando). Beyond that, in many places we have to guess, although in some it's pretty obvious.
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