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CARLHAYDEN
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« on: August 21, 2004, 08:03:48 PM »

JNB,

Its not out of line to call Kerry a liar.  He has already been proven as such and has admitted that he has told at least one lie about his war experience: He said he was in Cambodia on Christmas 1968 at the same time that President Nixon was telling America that there were no Americans in Cambodia.

Kerry was never in Cambodia, and Nixon wasn't President in 1968.

The Kerry campaign has been forced to admit this.

John,

As you should know, I have posted several specifics where Kerry made statements about his Viet Nam experiences which have subsequently been proven to be false.

However, this does not automatically make him a liar.

I am coming increasingly to believe that Kerry is simply delusional about his Viet Nam experiences, and remembering things that either did not happen, or did not happen the way he described them.

I really wonder if his Christmas in Cambodia story is not derived from watching a rather well known movie.

I wonder if in the throwing of whatever over the White House fence, he was previously at a meeting (possibly a little tight), and when the group was ready to go throw whatever over the White House fence he said something to the effect, 'I didn't bring my medals,' and someone else in the group said something to the effect, 'here are a couple, nobody will know the difference.'

I suspect that his testimony about attrocities before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee was simply his believing the tall tales he had heard earlier from some of his associates in the so-called anti-war movement.

I could go on to give other examples.

The bottom line is that we don't have to label Kerry a liar to find his Viet Nam stories non-credible.
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2004, 08:22:29 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2004, 08:25:04 PM by CARLHAYDEN »

Interesting add on.

The Washington Post had an article about one of the contested incidents.

The Post sought enough information to try to establish the facts through a FOA.

The navy only produced a small amount of the material.

When the Post asked Kerry to authorize full disclosure (necessary to get all of the information from the Navy), he refused.

When the Post sought access to Kerry's 'wartime' diary, he refused.

Apparently Kerry also wrote a draft for a book in 1971 which Brinkley used as a resource for his book.  When the Post asked for disclosure of that resource, Kerry again refused.

Very interesting!
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2004, 05:10:06 PM »

Trying to change the subject again.
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