Spanish General Election 2011

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Are these actual results or exit poll suggestions?

RTVE Poll

Sorry, I'm posting them so fast... and I couldn't hear C. la Mancha results... I think it was something like 14-7

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Ah, right then. So Catalunya not so bad all things considered, Andalucia a disaster (but that was expected, of course).

Yes, as I said PSOE disaster was expected. But PP was expected to get +190 seats.

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UPyd 4.3% (RTVE)

A damn good result

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I love the scenes outside of the PSOE headquarters. There are about ten people stationed on the sidewalk as a few others casually walk by. Election? What election?

Yes, it's cold and we've had a terrible night. I didn't expect 10 people to be there.

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8%

PP 175
PSOE 110
CiU 17
IU 11
Amaiur 6
PNV 5
ERC 3
UPYD 3
PRC 1
Compromis 1
BNG 2
FAC 1

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10%
PP   940.683   39,65%           176      
PSOE   686.021   28,92%   110      
CiU   101.870   4,29%           16   
IU-LV   152.357   6,42%   11   
AMAIUR   115.756   4,88%   6                  
EAJ-PNV   119.000   5,01%   5      
UPyD   82.273   3,46%   3      
ERC      26.697   1,12%   3      
BNG   12.254   0,51%          2      
FAC   15.253   0,64%           1                  
Compromis11.108   0,46%   1      
P.R.C.   3.899   0,16%   1                  

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awful results for Equo

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176 PP
109 PSOE

23%

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What's Amaiur ?

7 seats out of nowhere ...

Yeah, of nowhere because the izquierda abertzale was ilegal

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Amaiur = Aralar + Bildu

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Los españoles nos hemos vuelto gilipollas.

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If Sevilla could just go to the PP and Barcelona to the CiU, the map would look great ... !

WHAT?

Oh, and it seems that Zapatero'08 will have more votes than Rajoy'12

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If Sevilla could just go to the PP and Barcelona to the CiU, the map would look great ... !

WHAT?

As in, clean. Tidy. Of course, that one last plodge of red in Sevilla must (and will, safe to say now) remain. Barcelona might happen yet, I suppose, depending where the final precincts are.

the map is dirty, only sevilla and barcelona are clean.

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Some thougts, tomorrow more...:

-I'm also glad Uxue kept her seat.
-I'd have traded 1 PSOE seat for 1 seat for mr. Revilla.
-Zapatero is the most voted president in our history. Rajoy only won 1/2 million votes more than in 2008.
-I love Seville
-I love Barcelona
-Here in my city, at the north of Madrid (conservative areas) PP has got 49.5% of the vote. what does that mean? that we did a good campaign here
-Cordoba is more leftist than Seville. The problem is that its fukll of communists, who have stayed at home or voted IU.
-UPyD used to be a party full of intelligent people. Not anymore. Toni Canto is an idiot and the people who voted "magenta" didn't know what UPyD stands for.
-I can't understand how on earth UPyD got 10.5% of the vote in Sanse!! they didn't even manage to get 5% in May!! And there are lots of communists here (II-IU people)
-People in the right voted with their brain (small brain), not with their heart. I know lots of conservative people here in Madrid, and in Asturias, who love Cascos and hate Rajoy, but voted Rajoy.
-ETA won't come back never again. Amaiur leader is a good guy and will become a popular politicia for sure, so I expect them to continue growing.
-PSOE has to restart. I nominate Patxi López, but Carme Chacón and Eduardo Madina are good candidates for the general secretary position, too. Oh, if ANTONIO MIGUEL CARMONA DECIDES TO RUN, HERE HE HAS HIS MOST LOYAL SUPPORTER!
-Rubalcaba is not the looser of the night. Not even Zapatero. the looser is "PSOE" in general (myself included). We have a solid base (7 million votes) but our campaign was awful (I haven't heard about Gürtel this month). Also, we had the best candidate we could get, so RbCb is not to be blamed. Zapatero did all he could to save Spain, and we haven't been "rescued" like Greece, ireland or Portugal

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Couldn't Rubalcaba stay at the lead of the party ? After all, Rajoy lost twice before winning...

Yeah, but Rajoy never lost by a difference of 4 million votes and he wasn't a member of the most unpopular government ever.

Nobody intellectually honest can claim it was his fault, though.

Exactly that. everybody understands that if we lost by 16 points it was because we could not loose by less. Rubalcaba is the best candidate we had, and he made a decent campaign.


And scoopa, I doubt you're Spanish ("Sierra Nuerte", OMG! the typical error of a non-spanish).

And Rubalcaba didn't loose votes from the centre, he didn't manage to win upset votes in the left. That was the problem. 71% of the people voted this time, while 76% voted in 2008. Zapatero won 11 million votes, while Rajoy has only won 500000 votes more than in 2008. so, what does that mean? IMHO, socialists have stayed at home. The problem was not the centre
And I still can't understand HOW UPyD got 10% in my town. I expected IU to get a formidable result, and they LOST votes from 2008!!! And it's specially interesting considering that the composition of our "Ayuntamiento" is:

PP 14 concejales with 49% of the vote
PSOE 5 concejales with 19% of the vote
Izquierda Independiente (greens, commies and socialists) 5 concejales 17% of the vote
IU 1 concejal and 7% of the vote
UPyD 0 concejales and 4.85% of the vote

Results this Sunday were PP 49.5%, PSOE 26%, UPyD 10.5% and IU 8.5%.
I suppose what happened is that:
-A majority of PP voters still voted PP, and they won the support of some people who didn't vote in may.
-50% of II voters voted PSOE and, obviously, a huge majority of PSOE voters (may) voted PSOE
-IU voters voted IU and some of II voters too.
-UPyD managed to get their 5% of may voters and picked uo some PP support, and a minimal support from ex-PSOE voters.

I have to understand it as soon as possible, so I'll find out who voted UPyD here and why.

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And to those who claim ZP didn't save Spain, let me remind you...

1-Greece goes down the flames
2-BREAKING NEWS: Spain will come next.
3-Bye bye Ireland!
4-BREAKING NEWS: EIRE FAILS: SPAIN, YOU'RE THE NEXT!!
5-Oh, Portugal...
6-BREAKING NEWS: SPAIN CAN'T SURVIVE IF ITS NEIGHBOR HAS BEEN "RESCUED"
7-Here comesa Italy, which is at more risk  than Spain of being rescued!!

Zapatero did what he needed to. And he did so in May, 2010. Thanks, President!

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Does anyone know if any ministers or cabinet officials lost their seats? Usually with a loss that big you would expect that to happen.

No minister lost his/her seat;) They are usually number 1 or 2 in the lists for Congress, so it's almost impossible (the minister of interior could have lost his seat if PP had got more than 65% of the vote in Zamora, but he didn't).

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Well this whole election went a bit worse than I expected. At least much of the PSOE losses was absorbed by IU and the regionalists.

yes, only some people were expecting polls to be right. That's because polls here suck and because the left usually underperforms. but the result may have been good for us after all... If P didn't win an outright majority, they could have blamed us by not collaborating with them in the future...