The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature

[Yelnoc]

Let's try to keep this on the front page people.

[Yelnoc]

As per Emperor PiT's request, I am now sponsoring this bill.  If you have any objections please let them be known.

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[Yelnoc]

For the record, I support the bill in its current form.

[Yelnoc]

Because neither Svenssen nor Deldem has voiced an opinion I will debate open for another 24 hours.  The vote on this bill will take place at roughly this time tomorrow.

[Yelnoc]

Because neither Svenssen nor Deldem has voiced an opinion I will debate open for another 24 hours.  The vote on this bill will take place at roughly this time tomorrow.

This is not your job. Debate will end roughly Saturday night, and a 24 hour vote will follow. I am still here. Your job is to debate. My job is scheduling votes.

You take care of your job, I'll take care of mine.

My bad.  I joined when PiT was speaker.

[Yelnoc]

Aye.

[Yelnoc]

A quorum is two people, right?  What happens if we don't get a quorum to vote?

[Yelnoc]

Aye.

I apologize for not being able to look into this earlier, I've been extremely busy recently due to midterms and such.

That's perfectly ok.  Sorry if I am coming across as too pushy.

[Yelnoc]

Reposted from the Legislation Introduction thread
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Unborn Child Protection Act

1.  Noting that...

• With current medical technology, babies can survive outside of the womb during the third  trimester, as evidenced by the plethora of prematurely born babies that survive to become healthy individuals.
• Ending the life of a prematurely born baby is illegal.

2.  On that basis, the Unborn Child Protection Act seeks to extend that protection to fetus's in the third trimester.  All abortions carried out during the 3rd Trimester of pregancy are hereby illegal
3.  Any physician who knowingly performs an abortion in the third trimester shall be fined under this titled or imprisoned for not more than two years or both.
4.  Exceptions to this law may be made in the case of a threat to the mother's health, rape, or incest.

[Yelnoc]

     Anyway, I will be happy to sign this bill, provided that a clause is included to repeal the Abortion Initiative.

I feel dumb now.  My bill would do exactly the same thing as this already existing law.

[Yelnoc]

     Anyway, I will be happy to sign this bill, provided that a clause is included to repeal the Abortion Initiative.

I feel dumb now.  My bill would do exactly the same thing as this already existing law.

     Actually, your bill, with my change, would legalize second trimester abortions (should probably repeal the South Carolina & Louisiana bills too while we're at it). Now that's change I can believe in.

1.  Isn't 90 days a trimester?
2.  Why do South Carolina each have independent bills?

[Yelnoc]

It seems like abortion in the third trimester is already illegal.

So, let's table my proposal and move on.

[Yelnoc]

As I said earlier, my bill appears to be the duplicate of an already existing law.  As such I would prefer we move on to other matters.

[Yelnoc]

     And there are others who would prefer that we stay on this matter.

Ok then, let's stay on it.  What I'm saying is that the bill I introduced is already on the books.  I don't know what good pursuing it would do.  I am totalling open to someone else drafting a bill in a similiar vein has actual difference, though.

[Yelnoc]

Maybe I am missing something obvious, but doesn't the bill, even with Svensson's amendment still substitute an apple for an apple?  I don't see the difference between the two laws other than word choice.

[Yelnoc]

Maybe I am missing something obvious, but doesn't the bill, even with Svensson's amendment still substitute an apple for an apple?  I don't see the difference between the two laws other than word choice.

Your bill, plus my amendment, would push the abortion ban back another trimester, making it illegal only in the third.

Doesn't the Abortion Ban law only refer to the last trimester (90 day period)?

[Yelnoc]

Maybe I am missing something obvious, but doesn't the bill, even with Svensson's amendment still substitute an apple for an apple?  I don't see the difference between the two laws other than word choice.

Your bill, plus my amendment, would push the abortion ban back another trimester, making it illegal only in the third.

Doesn't the Abortion Ban law only refer to the last trimester (90 day period)?

"It shall be against the law to induce an abortion in the Southeast Region after the 90th day of the pregnancy except in the case of a severe threat to the mother's health."

Basically, abortion is illegal, as it is, after three months - only one trimester.

Yes exactly.  And my bill would also only make it illegal for one trimester, i.e. 90 days.  So I don't see the difference.

[Yelnoc]

Maybe I am missing something obvious, but doesn't the bill, even with Svensson's amendment still substitute an apple for an apple?  I don't see the difference between the two laws other than word choice.

Your bill, plus my amendment, would push the abortion ban back another trimester, making it illegal only in the third.

Doesn't the Abortion Ban law only refer to the last trimester (90 day period)?

"It shall be against the law to induce an abortion in the Southeast Region after the 90th day of the pregnancy except in the case of a severe threat to the mother's health."

Basically, abortion is illegal, as it is, after three months - only one trimester.

Yes exactly.  And my bill would also only make it illegal for one trimester, i.e. 90 days.  So I don't see the difference.

     He means that it is currently legal for only one trimester. Passing this bill would legalize second trimester abortions (& in Louisiana & South Carolina, first trimester abortions as well).

Oh, my was misreading the other bill.  My apologies.  Is there anything else that needs to be debated or can we move on to the voting?

[Yelnoc]

Aye.
Aye.

[Yelnoc]

Unborn Child Protection Act

X Imperial Speaker Yelnoc

[Yelnoc]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

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[Yelnoc]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

I would like to remind all citizens of the IDS that the assembly elections will be held in about a weeks time.  If you would like to run for election or reelection to the IDS Legislature but have not yet declared your candidacy I suggest you do so as soon as possible.

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Reposted from the legislation introduction thread.

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[Yelnoc]

How am I to ensure that my minions are properly armed with such restrictions?

If you remember, you are a high-ranking government official.  Notice the exception to this bil....

[Yelnoc]

     Two things:

     1. Aren't these things all illegal on the federal level already? I have no interest in the passage of gun control legislation stronger than that put into place by the federal government.

     2. Who are we to say that someone that violates a regional law is to serve time in federal prison? I'm not sure if it violates any sort of federal law, but they would be well within their rights to refuse us the use of them.

1.  I'm pretty sure that this legislation is stronger than the federal one.
2.  "Federal" was a typo, I will fix it