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Yelnoc
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« Reply #75 on: November 14, 2010, 07:10:54 PM »

     The federal legislation is good enough in my book.
So if this were to pass you would veto it?

And what happened to the other two assemblymen anyway?
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2010, 10:19:46 PM »

Since this doesn't look like it will get anywhere I will withdraw it.

As for modernizing the wiki (and other government docs), does that really need legislative action?  It seems like it would be in your powers as governor to update the thing.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2010, 09:11:17 AM »

Since this doesn't look like it will get anywhere I will withdraw it.

As for modernizing the wiki (and other government docs), does that really need legislative action?  It seems like it would be in your powers as governor to update the thing.

     Well the text of the laws would have to change to reflect a change in practices. It's not as if I'm merely rectifying incorrect entries into the wiki.
If you have something specific in mind I will introduce it for you.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2010, 12:27:30 PM »

Congratulations to MilesC56 for his election and SvenssonRS for his write-in reelection.  Now its back to the business of the Legislature.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #79 on: November 23, 2010, 05:04:48 PM »

I'm afraid to propose something for fear it will be another redudant bill.  Maybe SvennsonRS or MilesC51 will show some activity.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #80 on: November 24, 2010, 10:27:49 AM »

I got nothin'.

How about SvennsonRS?
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #81 on: November 24, 2010, 06:10:24 PM »

     Passing a bill on the issue would do nothing. It would require a Constitutional Amendment.

S**t.

How could we get a constitutional amendment, then?

According to the wiki the process is the following.

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I have never seen an itiative on the ballot.  In case you are wondering what Article II, Clause I of the Southeast Constitution is see below.

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So my interpretation is that members of the legislature have the power to draft voter iniatives or constitutional amendments that are placed on the ballot at the next election.  But, then again, the Wiki isn't exactly known for being up-to-date.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #82 on: November 24, 2010, 07:37:37 PM »

Well than, we have a very pressing problem.  Our current constitution provides no process by which it can be lawfully amended because of an earlier amendment.  The old clause which you cite cannot be directly placed into the constitution amendmending it.  Even then, it would need to be heavily edited to fit with the current constitution.  It is a circular problem which I see no answer to without breaking the law of the Southeast.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Yelnoc
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« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2010, 11:41:44 AM »

So then what is the process for passing an amendment?
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2010, 05:13:47 PM »

With that resolved, anyone have anything, even if it is redundant?
Well, the booth hasn't even opened for the amendment so we should probably let that pass before we begin any new business.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2010, 08:12:40 PM »

Tell me what the "PHA Championship" is and where "Kiawa Island" is and I might sponsor it. 

And how would building an expressway on the continent help alleviate traffic on an island?
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2010, 09:11:51 PM »

Oh, so this is a real life mirrored onto Atlasia kind of a deal?

Sure, I'll sponsor your bill.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #87 on: November 25, 2010, 10:19:39 PM »

Get something typed up and we can begin debate on it, Yelnoc.

But how much does Senator Duke want?

I'll PM him about it...
He said he would write it so I'm just waiting for a PM.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2010, 10:01:50 AM »

Right.  I see now what you are asking for.  The below map shows the area in question; the red A is on Bohicket Road.



Here is a shot of the road its self.



It seems to me that we have to option, widen Bohicket road or build a new one.  Because Bohicket Road is a scenic highway ligned with ancient, beautiful trees and such, I would prefer the second option.  As such, I propose a road be built from River road south to connect with Governor's road.  Here is the route I had in mind.

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Yelnoc
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« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2010, 11:33:34 AM »

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What do we want to call the road?
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2010, 12:34:54 PM »

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What do we want to call the road?

Fritz Hollings?
Linsey Grahm?
Jefferson Davis? (Never seems to be a shortage of those Tongue)
How about Duke Lane?
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2010, 05:06:06 PM »

How is this?

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Yelnoc
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« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2010, 05:21:56 PM »

     The bill should include a clause apportioning a certain amount of money.
How do we estimate that?
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2010, 06:02:28 PM »

I spoke with KS about the money needed. The real life figure for this project is around $140 million, half coming from the federal government and half from the state. I'm not sure how we do that in this game, but to answer your question, we'd need around $140 million give or take.
Ok then.  You guys up yonder give us $70,000,000 and we'll pick up the rest of the tab.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2010, 08:05:38 PM »
« Edited: November 26, 2010, 08:16:26 PM by Imperial Speaker Yelnoc »

How is this?

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Yelnoc
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« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2010, 08:17:04 PM »

     I'd suggest wording clause 3 as "Construction of the Duke Greenway shall be paid for with $140 million dollars taken from the Highway Fund." The increased specificity of that phrase would be nice, though I'm not sure it is really needed.
Fixed.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #96 on: November 26, 2010, 08:58:30 PM »

So, Senator Duke, it looks like you will have to work some Federal magic to free up the funds for us.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #97 on: November 28, 2010, 03:32:39 PM »

     It just occurred to me, but some of the images on the Google Earth map are difficult to make out. To make sure, this isn't passing through any stretches where there are currently houses, is it?
No, that's all trees and empty land.  Some of it is probably government-owned already.
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #98 on: November 29, 2010, 06:06:21 PM »

I like ours better Wink
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Yelnoc
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« Reply #99 on: November 30, 2010, 04:22:56 PM »

I didn't think we made any changes from the wording in the copy of the bill I posted on page 57.  Here is a repost of that bill; if anyone has other suggestions please voice them.

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