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Skill and Chance
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« on: May 22, 2017, 07:52:37 PM »

If it happened several times in a row, there is no doubt in my mind that the Dems would create several new states (requires only the majority consent of congress and of the relevant state legislature) when they finally got back in power after economic crash or an impeachment level scandal.  See also: Nebraska being admitted as a separate state from Kansas, Colorado being admitted while severely underpopulated and the splitting of the Dakotas.

Note that the UK had a long tradition of treating its oldest 10 or so universities as local governments with special representation in Parliament.  If the left really wanted to take revenge, they could theoretically start admitting some college towns as their own states.
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Skill and Chance
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 02:36:13 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2017, 01:47:08 PM by Skill and Chance »

I actually agree that this situation would likely see Democrats start pushing for some various things to game the system, like splitting up California or trying to admit Puerto Rico as a state, for transparently partisan reasons.

Yes, however you cut it, there would be a growing movement to "gerrymander" the states at the left's next opportunity.  During a Dem wave midterm year, they could also propose state constitutional amendments by initiative to bind state electors to the NPV winner in any R-leaning swing states that have the initiative (MI, AZ, OH, and FL do, which would have been enough EV to flip the 2016 result).  The constitutional issues only come into play when multiple states enter a binding compact with each other.  An individual state can assign its electors however it likes.

I suppose the most obvious strategy would be to mass-admit all of the offshore US territories as states the next time they have a trifecta.  All except American Samoa (as Mormon as Idaho) should reliably elect Dems.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2017, 04:13:24 PM »

Let's say it's also happening at the Congressional level - Ds have also won the House PV but failed to win the House, and also the overall Senate PV, but failed to win the Senate. It happens in 2020. And then again in 2024.

Does anything happen other than Democrats making a noise and then everyone else forgetting about it? Or does it start a real push for electoral reform?

What would a real push for electoral reform look like?

Probably a combination of proportional representation in the House and a requirement that all states with more than 5-10X the population of Wyoming must be split into smaller parts at the next census.  The latter would require a constitutional amendment though.  Or maybe a future activist SCOTUS could find a way to apply the logic of Reynolds v. Sims to put a legal limit on population disparities between states?
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