Will Dean go quietly into the night....

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

It kind of reminds me of the Democrats in 1984.  After one of the biggest landslides ever - the one for Reagan, Washington Post publisher Katherine Graham said (although it has been attributed to others as well) "I can't understand how he could have won. No one I know voted for him."

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I don't think that even nuclear waste would make Nevada voters choose Howard Dean.

His bubble is going to burst whether I do it or not.

You do have a pint there....

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Of course Bush's election is not certain.  Nothing in politics ever is.  That's why most of us on this board enjoy the game of presidential politics like we do.  Lots of twists and turns.

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Yeah, I estimate Bush reelection chances at something like 70-80%. I think that the most likely thing to happen is that a few states, which were either very close the last time or have other reasons for changing hand, change hands, like West Virginia, New Hampshire and Nevada for the Reps and Iowa, Wisconsin, New Mexico and Oregon for the Dems.

Bush isn't going to carry Nevada. They're still pissed about nuclear waste being buried there.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

There is no official standard, different agencies and entities use these terms to describe regions that fit whatever their needs are -- including or excluding states to equalize population, adding additional sub-regions, etc.  There are also several states that share the geographic and cultural characteristics of two or more regions.  What region something is in usually depends on how many ways you want to divide the country.

If you want to divide the country into two regions, you could do so by splitting the country east and west of the Mississippi river.  Three regions will usually get you North of the Ohio River, South of the Ohio River and West of the Mississippi river.  

Four regions looks something like this - which is the Republican National Committee's states associations:



You'll generally cover all your bases with around nine regions -- which I would define as:



There are plenty of things to disagree over and of course several states could easily be changed from one to the other.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Florida probably is more south than deep south but I think that Missouri could definately fit in either and there is certainly a north/south split in the state.  West Virginia could also be in both.

(BTW, I did have Alaska as NW and Hawaii as SW and they have the appropriate colors, but I'm using Dave's map so they are in the same place they are on all the other maps)

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