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Foucaulf
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« on: September 09, 2012, 01:57:10 PM »

He's saying what the top echelons of China are all thinking. Both sides want to push each other's hand, but not to the point of collapse. The political structure of China and its foreign-dependent economy makes the nation unable to lead like the US for at least the next decade or two.

Oh, so another Westerner trying to teach the "natives" how to act like Europe...
Singapore provides an economic and political model in contrast to the failing Western style of governance, so it's only natural it would inspire such hostility.

The funny thing being that the Lee family - educated in Cambridge and all - follow a very western style of governance. It's more of a conservative-modern thing.

It is unfortunate to see that Singaporean youth are becoming decadent, I assume embracing immorality, promiscuity, and delayed maturation like their American fellows. One might hope the traditional values of society shall react against that.

I would view the "decadence" problem in a more dialectical light.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 06:45:53 AM »

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Basically I meant the homogenizing forces of capitalism would've changed attitudes sooner or later, but that sounds a bit too doctrinaire. I was very happy to hear from some Singapore students at my school that clubs and raves do exist. It's not all "Disneyland with the Death Penalty" down there.

Which is relevant to your previous point...

So a model very much adaptable to the West? Shall I found the Peoples' Action Caucus, or do I misunderstand you?

But it's not surprising long-lasting and strong founded ways of conservative governance would arouse such passion amongst leftists.

I was trying to highlight how the Singapore model wouldn't work in the factitious politics of Asia either. It can no longer work in today's developed world because populations are either so homogeneous that a mass opposition movement may be developed or so heterogeneous that the system would never get built. Be technocratic all you want, but you may want to do so in a different city after Bloomberg's soda fiasco.

I don't really have much of a bone to pick with Singapore anymore - it's clearly a country designed more for living than visiting. What irks me are the people who tout of a "Singaporean model" like others did of the technocracies in the thirties.  Governance is one thing, but "inspirational" is a different matter. I'll save talk of anti-Westernism from Asians for another time.
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