SENATE BILL: Home and Private Schooling Tax Credit Act (Vetoed, Sustained)

[Napoleon]

This bill makes no sense. Education is a domain of the regions.

[Napoleon]

This bill makes no sense. Education is a domain of the regions.

Education was in the President's budget- no?

That would be assistance to the regions, Senator.

[Napoleon]

This bill makes no sense. Education is a domain of the regions.

Education was in the President's budget- no?

That would be assistance to the regions, Senator.

No, this is an attempt at nationalization.

And this is, essentially, assistance to the regions.

[Napoleon]

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the definition of "nationalization," Governor.

Nationalization is "bringing under the ownership or control of a nation". You're removing the right of regions to decide how to educate their students and bringin g it under the control of the nation. I support allowing regions to have more determination in education policy.

[Napoleon]

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the definition of "nationalization," Governor.

Nationalization is "bringing under the ownership or control of a nation". You're removing the right of regions to decide how to educate their students and bringin g it under the control of the nation. Weight support allowing regions to have more determination in education policy.

This is not true. The bill merely subsidizes a particular form of education, so to speak. In no way does it take away any right from the regions to determine how students should be educated.

And you didn't have any problems with the concept of "nationalization" when you introduced a bill that made it impossible for the regions to ban medical marijuana, so be sincere and don't try to present yourself as a friend of regional rights.

Healthcare is the responsibility of the national government so related policy is fine at a national level. All Atlasians deserve access to the best healthcare. Education is different. Education is the domain of the regions and a one size fits all policy would be inappropriate. If you can't see the difference, that is your logical failing, not mine.

[Napoleon]

All Atlasians deserve access to the best healthcare. Education is different.

All Atlasians deserve the best healthcare but all Atlasians don't deserve the best education?

The best education isn't provided by this bill but it would be more subjective than the best healthcare. Healthcare is more of a science; education is more of an art.

[Napoleon]

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the definition of "nationalization," Governor.

Nationalization is "bringing under the ownership or control of a nation". You're removing the right of regions to decide how to educate their students and bringin g it under the control of the nation. Weight support allowing regions to have more determination in education policy.

This is not true. The bill merely subsidizes a particular form of education, so to speak. In no way does it take away any right from the regions to determine how students should be educated.

And you didn't have any problems with the concept of "nationalization" when you introduced a bill that made it impossible for the regions to ban medical marijuana, so be sincere and don't try to present yourself as a friend of regional rights.

Healthcare is the responsibility of the national government so related policy is fine at a national level. All Atlasians deserve access to the best healthcare. Education is different. Education is the domain of the regions and a one size fits all policy would be inappropriate. If you can't see the difference, that is your logical failing, not mine.

There was no need to include medical marijuana in the national health care bill. Not only is it disputed how effective the use of marijuana for medical purposes is, but the addition of more and more forms of medical treatment to the federal health care insurance also makes health care coverage even more expensive. The reason why medical marijuana was added to the list of covered forms of medical treatment was purely political, and you did not care about the individual regions and their stance on medical marijuana when you introduced that unnecessary bill. Thus, your criticism of the concept of nationalization regarding this educational bill is completely implausible. You only care about regional rights when it is politically convenient, but not because you really believe in the importance of regional rights.

Once again, healthcare policy is national and education policy is regional.

[Napoleon]

I'm not going to reward parents for taking children out of the public system we're trying to make better.

If you want to privately educate, or home-school your children, that's your responsibility.

Assume a child is zoned for an F-school (how things are done in Florida)- govt regulations force that child to attend that school and not another public school...you oppose making it easier for a child to attend a better private school? The END goal of the public school system is not to improve the public school system- it is to improve the pupils...if to do that it helps to go outside the public school system why not?

Wouldn't a bill that allowed the students to go to any school they could get to (provided that the school had room for them) have a similar effect?

No because it is not the federal government's job. The Northeast already has a law for public school choice and we have the best education in the nation at every level.

[Napoleon]

The end goal of most laws (excluding defense and some others) should be ultimate power to the individual I believe...not power to the regions. Many times- power to the regions means more power to the people but if a federal law can mean more power to the people I am in favor of jumping the regions- as are others...I believe ZuWo has already pointed out contradictions in your pro-regional policies Napoleon but that's not for here to argue

Lol there is no contradiction and if it isn't for here to argue then don't bring it up at all because it shows a lack of maturity on your part. Again, why should the federal government be doing this instead of the governments that actually fund schools?

[Napoleon]

I don't think this impacts public schools too much. The problem is that the federal government shouldn't be giving tax credits for things the regions fund, it should be left up to those regions.