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« on: January 21, 2019, 08:30:14 AM »

If the Democrats want to double down on the virtue signaling cultural wars while doing nothing to help ordinary people, this is their candidate.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2019, 03:46:20 AM »

Here in Georgia with a bunch of organizers and party people on my social media (more of them white than black I might add) and this announcement by far has gotten the biggest and most fervent reaction. She’s sweeping the South.

Same story in CA — word I’m getting is that her organizer and donor support here is nearly unanimous. And CA + the South + black support elsewhere is the nomination.

She has a 43% approval rating. Just because the machine changed the primary to March just for her doesn't mean that she is well liked among ordinary Californians.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 05:45:19 PM »


Yeah, a hard pass on Hillary's favorite candidate.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 05:57:41 PM »

If Clintons want her as a frontrunner, that is good.

You really want that second term for Trump?
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2019, 11:54:04 AM »

If Clintons want her as a frontrunner, that is good.

You really want that second term for Trump?

Progressives are kind of annoying sometimes, not only on this forum. I am a mod on a Polish forum about American politics, and few days ago incidentally someone (who identifies on this forum as a kind of progressive, but not a Democrat like me, just independent progressive) began discussion about "how Bernie would win in 2016", and few peoples joined her (that person is a woman), and I was the only one not-progressive Democrat who presented that Bernie wouldn't have won 2016 elections if chosen nominee.

Kamala and Biden (if he'll run) or maybe Castro and maaaaaybe Beto (if he'll run) are the only ones who are, let's say, federally electable candidates among those who have real chances in this primary. I mean, progressives are making huge gains, breaking glass ceilings one after another (Bernie in 2016, AOC etc.) but from my mainstream POV (with little assistance of certain electoral nuances in America) they are not capable to also win in Bronx, New York City or Vermont or San Francisco or DC, let's say, but also in more rural America like Kansas, Iowa, Missouri or rural Virginia (2017 VA GOV primaries showed that or IL-3 primary, Dan Lipinski's district), and whole, I mean, whole Democratic Party needs a candidate who will be most federally electable or who will be a bridge linking mainstream and progressive elements (like KH does). Progressives can be nationwide electable in 10 or more years, when things like 15$ minimum wage or Medicare-for-all or at least further reforms of healthcare will be impacting not only New York City or Seattle or San Francisco, but also Kansas City, Oklahoma City or Little Rock. That needs some time, time to enact it and time to get people used to it, to understand the changes, to simply get to knew that I can benefit from ex. 15$ minimum wage, like I can benefit from ACA or end of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell Policy" when in military and breaking these glass ceilings don't mean that progressives must act against Eleven Commandment in politics (not to criticize other party members). Especially in these polarized, partisan times.

A third wayer lost the last Presidential election despite massively outspending her reality star opponent who was less popular than Goldwater, and polls showed Bernie doing much better against Trump, but you still think that progressives are the unelectable ones? The American people want to to vote for someone who talks about the issues and doesn't suck on them, not the vapid third wayers that the Democratic party loves to nominate.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2019, 03:02:53 PM »


You're almost right but not quite. American voters don't want to hear specific policies, they want a clear vision that they agree with. Bernie presented a strong and clear vision for America, so did Trump, Hillary did not.

Gimme a break.  Hillary most certainly did present a strong, clear vision for America--the Democratic vision of fairness, inclusion, equality, and opportunity. Not enough voters found that vision as compelling as the regressive, nativist hate espoused by the Trump campaign, but the vision, and the choice, was clear.

Oh yes, the vision that we must deport child refugees from the Honduras government installed by the coup that Hillary supported to send a message. Truly a message of inclusion there.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2019, 03:09:26 PM »

"America is already great" is not a strong, clear vision. Wonky lists of policies and making small tweaks around the edges of our currently existing system, is not a strong, clear vision.

Please.  You're pretending like every major speech she gave was just a litany of policy proposals when in fact she campaigned incessantly on the value of gender equality and racial equality and international cooperation.  The contrast in values with Trump couldn't have been more clear.  She made her case, but not enough people cared. What's she supposed to do? Hypnotize the masses with her spellbinding oratory?

Her ads had the least policy of any major party nominee for at least 20 years. Lets stop pretending that her campaign was anything but vapid.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 03:16:09 PM »

"America is already great" is not a strong, clear vision. Wonky lists of policies and making small tweaks around the edges of our currently existing system, is not a strong, clear vision.

Please.  You're pretending like every major speech she gave was just a litany of policy proposals when in fact she campaigned incessantly on the value of gender equality and racial equality and international cooperation.  The contrast in values with Trump couldn't have been more clear.  She made her case, but not enough people cared. What's she supposed to do? Hypnotize the masses with her spellbinding oratory?

Her ads had the least policy of any major party nominee for at least 20 years. Lets stop pretending that her campaign was anything but vapid.

But Sanders, with his magic asterisk health care plan and half baked proposals about big banks which even he couldn't explain, wasn't.

Gosh his proposals for the big banks that were almost as far left as that come up by commie Neel Kashkari, head of the Minneapolis Fed and 2014 Republican California governor nominee?
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2019, 03:31:29 PM »


Her ads had the least policy of any major party nominee for at least 20 years. Lets stop pretending that her campaign was anything but vapid.

Wait, I thought the criticism was that she was too wonky and detail oriented. Now it's that she was too vapid?  Which is it, man?  I can't keep up.

Bernie supporters certainly weren't calling her wonky and detail oriented. It was Bernie's focus on the issues, and a message that doesn't suck which is why Bernie had his support.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2019, 04:13:32 PM »

Her launch rally is shaping up to have a massive turnout-



Definitely a good-sized turnout out there. However, that crowd does look very white I must say.

EDIT: Not trying to suggest anything, just an observation.

Yeah, that does look whiter than Bernie's rally in that exact location.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2019, 04:28:04 PM »

So now white people being at a rally is a problem? The hypocrisy is stunning. Oakland is changing and is a lot whiter than it was even just 10 years ago.

Oakland is still only 27.3% non Hispanic white in the 2018 estimates.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2019, 05:54:00 PM »

The right wing hate machine is currently screaming that Kamala Harris slept her way to the top of the political food chain by having sex with San Francisco Mayor, power broker, and CA Assembly Speaker Willie Brown during her time as a prosecutor. The two did date in the early 2000s.

It was the 1990s, and he appointed her to a commission with a good salary.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2019, 06:11:49 PM »

I'm liking Harris a lot more because what could piss off the MAGA crowd more than a black woman president who's in an interracial marriage?

Someone that Trump didn't donate to?
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jfern
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2019, 06:41:38 PM »

I'm liking Harris a lot more because what could piss off the MAGA crowd more than a black woman president who's in an interracial marriage?

Someone that Trump didn't donate to?
When the f**k did Trump donate to Harris?

As I said elsewhere, jfern's posts are becoming increasingly nonsensical.

In this case he's right. Harris accepted $6,000 from Trump when she was investigating Trump University in California, before ultimately deciding not to bring charges.

This story says she donated the $ to charity:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/08/trump-universitys-troubles-might-explain-the-donalds-donation-to-kamala-harris/


That would be exculpatory if she'd given the money away right away, but according to a WSJ article from the October 2016 campaign she only did so (possibly years later) because she opposed his stance on immigration. She also kept a $2,000 from Ivanka:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-often-made-donations-to-state-attorneys-general-reviewing-his-business-1475689963

She gave Donald's money to charity in July 2015, a month after Trump announced for President.

https://spectator.org/65643_follow-money-donald-and-democrats/
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2019, 06:51:31 PM »

I'd like to note that Harris' campaign chairwoman is the person in charge of crafting a policy agenda (so-called) for Hillary's 2016 campaign.  Talk about failing upward Tongue

Well it’s also her sister.

Hooray for nepotism Tongue

We have that for Castro too, but at least Joaquin is an elected official.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2019, 07:15:10 PM »

Anyway, Harris being viciously attacked by Bernie bros just shows how stupid was her decision to support Sanders's single payer bill in hope of being spared this treatment.
She should've known that these cultists only care for their God Emperor King and will not hesitate to smear and slander every other Democratic candidate even if their positions are identical with Saint Bernie's.

LOL at the idea that Harris just changed all her positions to Bernie. You are suggesting that Harris has no core beliefs.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2019, 06:16:04 PM »

Want evidence? Check the progressive punch score, yes Bernie is eight on the list. Kamala is third on the list, behind the Massachusetts senators.


https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=senate&party=&sort=overall-lifetime&order=down
>treating progressive punch as a serious outlet
>ignores Kamala's atrocious record as AG
>Says Kamala is more progressive than sanders
>ok than

Not to mention that every single vote she has ever cast has been with an eye on winning the 2020 Democratic Presidential primary, and she still voted multiple times to increase the military budget with Trump as commander in chief. She will only get more conservative from her carefully calculated Senate record.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2019, 02:39:10 PM »

Harris is a nothingburger. She’s going nowhere

Dems are likely to win 2020, anyways. All of the candidates will govern like Obama did. It really doesnt matter if its Harris, Biden or Beto. As long as, Sanders, to some, cant win due to being a socialist

You should probably change your avatar if you hate socialism that much.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2019, 12:23:53 AM »

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/03/20/kamala-harris-fundraiser-hollywood-power-elite/

So much for even attempting to visit average voters in the middle of the country. Then expect the complaints that sexism and racism is causing her to lose, it is coming.

Her fundraisers in Hollywood and the Hamptons average out to the middle of the country. Close enough.
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2019, 12:23:15 AM »

"Coastal elitist" is usually a stupid term, but if it ever has any meaning, well when it's being used in regards to someone from San Francisco...it's pretty stupid to say there are no working class people on the coasts, but working class in San Francisco...ROFL.

San Francisco has working class workers, but a lot of them have a hellish commute from as far away as Central Valley.
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2019, 05:03:59 PM »

Buttigieg is a white guy and that should have him appeal to Sanders/Biden voters who are worried about the Dems trending left on social justice issues.

You know nothing about Bernie voters.
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2019, 03:40:59 PM »

Dumbass Donald

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441783-kamala-harris-responds-to-trump-calling-her-nasty




#JailThoseParents

What parents? Not a single parent went to jail for truancy under her¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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the state law she supported led to some California parents being put behind bars.

https://reason.com/2019/04/17/kamala-harris-offers-a-crappy-apology-to-parents-who-went-to-jail-because-their-kids-missed-school/
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2019, 05:59:22 PM »



Nothing to laugh about appearing on a respected journalist program. I know people on here have knives against her but just think for a moment, how many journalist with a program would open their shows by tracing a educational approach of history, with connecting the dots between the events in the past with the major events that are ongoing? People can opted to think she's an hack, what they can't deny is her intellect and her style of manner in analyzing the complexity that goes behind the stories that aren't dumbed down to a two-minute clip.

Respected? Hahahahahahahah good one.
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2019, 12:48:58 AM »


Good news for Harris, but how many candidates have had MSNBC town halls? I didn't even know about until the night of. If they are going to give one to Harris, they should give one to other candidates also, similar to how CNN did.

MSNBC townhalls have to be way more desirable than a CNN one, for one the ratings are way better and I bet there are way more Dem primary voters tuned in.

The questions Bernie got from the CNN town hall were so absurd, I wonder if MSNBC could top them for ridiculous propaganda.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2019, 04:48:14 PM »


Good news for Harris, but how many candidates have had MSNBC town halls? I didn't even know about until the night of. If they are going to give one to Harris, they should give one to other candidates also, similar to how CNN did.

MSNBC townhalls have to be way more desirable than a CNN one, for one the ratings are way better and I bet there are way more Dem primary voters tuned in.

The questions Bernie got from the CNN town hall were so absurd, I wonder if MSNBC could top them for ridiculous propaganda.

Stop blaming the media for Bernie's inability to answer softball questions.

Imagine being so much of a hack that you think that Bernie couldn't answer softball questions during the CNN town hall.
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