Jan. 21 CNN Dem. debate in South Carolina *live commentary thread*

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Wow

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This is horrible.  I just tuned in about ten minutes ago and I was so embarrassed for everybody.  My wife looking on incredulously while two grown-ups, presumably the best your party can come up with, are arguing over who can walk over Ronald Reagan's memory with sharper heels.  Bitches.  both of them.

At least now I understand why so many want edwards to drop out.  It's kind of entertaining without him.  (I must admit, I was enjoying the spat.)  With him, there's a voice of sobriety saying intelligent things about domestic policy, reminding me of how embarrassing this whole spectacle is.  So it sort of oscillates between catfight and policy forum. 

At least that's my take on the time I've watched.

What's with Wolf Blitzer?  this is, like, the fourth debate they let that jackass host.  He can't seem to control anything.  They need that woman from PBS that hosted the PBS debates.  She was great.  She was like a female concentration camp guard.  She even wore black, as I recall.  She wouldn't put up with this. 

Fire wolf blitzer.

Ronald Reagan started his Presidential campaign by talking about states rights in Philadelphia, MS, where civil rights workers were murdered. I have a relative who was in the marines in Lebanon who hates his guts for he did there. Then there's the deficits, the Iran-Contra scandal, and being found guilty of terrorism by the World Court.

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ah, now obama is talking about healthcare.  That's really the only major disagreement I have with that guy.  He starts playing the Edwards game, impugning "the drug companies, the major corporations, ..."   Check again, hoss.  Big corporations have consistently higher approval ratings than any politician and any political party.  And, frankly, my drug stocks have done pretty well for me and for my family over the past several years.  (Last two weeks being an exception.  all my stocks are down just now.)  We need less government, not more, in healthcare.  But other than that his jumping on the national healthcare bandwagon, I really like his general positions and his general demeanor.  And even on that issue, he's at least pragmatic about it.

So one should never go after those who currently have high approval ratings? Well, then the US should never have fought Hitler's regime, since Hitler was popular there.

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Okay Edwards, that's enough attacking the progressive candidate who has a good chance.

Corrected

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The Chicago Tribune is a Republican rag.

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Wow, that's a shift by Hillary: "Bring the troops home starting in 60 days". Still more pro-war than McCain in 1993, though.

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The question is whether winning this debate will overcome the fact that he lost to Kucinich in NV.

Edwards didn't do that badly in Nevada.