The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

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Bloomberg asked about 2020:

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/10/22/bloomberg-on-possible-2020-bid/

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Yeah he’s worse than Trump when it comes to idle threats of running for President.
"Mayor Bloomberg, with Election 2040 around the corner, will you finally give it a go?"
"I'll tell you what," the 98-year old bony billionaire croaked, "I'll think about it this time."

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A friend who owns bernie2020.org has been threatened with a lawsuit if he does not turn that domain over.

That was a problem Ron Paul faced in 2012.

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Avenatti assembling his team:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/29/michael-avenatti-2020-election-campaign-944994

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Hearing some of those middle-tier level operatives attempting to portray themselves as political "heavyweights" was more hilarious than Avenatti's prospective candidacy itself.

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Maybe I'm just following this too closely now and not seeing it, or maybe it's still too early, but I'm wondering... where are all the nobodies? Give or take a Deval Patrick, most potential candidates in this thread are currently holding office (or have done so until very recently). Look at previous primaries, there's always nobodies at the bottom of the heap. People who've been out of office for a while, with very little name recognition. They don't do well. They'll withdraw before votes are cast, or after receiving a dozen votes. Mike Gravel, Lincoln Chafee, George Pataki, Jim Gilmore... and so on. Who's going to fill that spot in 2020? You'd think maybe we'd have more people like that seizing their chance and going for it. Again - maybe I'm following it too closely and just not recognizing it. But I'm not seeing it. Where are the 0.1%ers?

John Delaney comes to mind.

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Maybe it'll be like Chuck Hagel's 2007 announcement, where he called a press conference to announce that he hadn't yet decided if he was going to run for president.

Heh, learn something new everyday

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Reading the Vague interview now. For a venture capitalist Democrat, he seems actually like a pretty good guy with decent intentions. He has no chance in hell of winning, but I'd gladly take a guy like him over Romney or Steyer.

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https://twitter.com/jamespindell/status/1084199866551676929?s=21

Having worked with Liz before this is an amazing hire.

How are anyone remotely related to the Clinton clusterf**k even remotely hirable?

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https://twitter.com/jamespindell/status/1084199866551676929?s=21

Having worked with Liz before this is an amazing hire.

How are anyone remotely related to the Clinton clusterf**k even remotely hirable?

Hill won NH bruh

By the skin of her teeth lol. And only after two-thirds of the state’s Democrats rejected her in favor of Bernie.

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https://twitter.com/jamespindell/status/1084199866551676929?s=21

Having worked with Liz before this is an amazing hire.

How are anyone remotely related to the Clinton clusterf**k even remotely hirable?

Hill won NH bruh

By the skin of her teeth lol. And only after two-thirds of the state’s Democrats rejected her in favor of Bernie.

Please do not act like you know anything about Hillary's NH staff.

Please don’t act like being part of or connected to the most middle tier levels of Clinton’s Staff is some kind of accomplishment or something to be proud of.

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So much this. No one is safe from criticism, and the whole point of the primary is to air these disputes and to let the voters decide. Stop acting like every revelation will lead to a Trump victory.

Everytime someone has a valid criticism about Bernie we are told that that's not what he meant, we didn't see what we saw, we heard it wrong, or we have Bernie Derangement Syndrome....

Oh Please, if one were to actually watch the 2016 primary unfold, one would see that many stances Sanders had, such as on guns, were heavily criticized. Saying he was treated like someone special is pure historical revisionism.

Seriously, no one is safe from criticism, not Sanders, not Harris, not Beto, and not Biden. Thats literally the whole point of holding a primary.

He was treated with kid gloves by the media and Hillary's campaign because his cultists acted like cry babies and perpetuated that the media was in the tank for Hillary (even though she recieved the most negative press of ALL the candidates). I hope Sanders runs so we can finally skewer his problematic record and infeasible plans.

This is great historical revisionism. Sanders received negative coverage, and while you can argue(without actual information to back yourself up, I might add) that it was less than Clinton, it was still negative:


This idea that Sanders wasnt attacked in the 2016 primary is garbage, plain and simple.

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He was attacked as much as Trump. The Tandeen machine went into overdrive. To say otherwise is simply just not true.

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Weld wouldn’t make the stage against Trump no matter what banner he runs on, and he’d be destroyed if he did.

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I meant Ross Perot as some independent candidate who doesn't have much to virtually any chances in the presidential race, and that is why I wrote above "why it is so simple to me". I am assuming that due to the leftward shift in Democratic Party as of 2019 Schultz can end like John Anderson, even worse than Perot.

Schultz wouldn't even get as much as Anderson.

Honestly I don’t even see him getting Nader levels. He has no niche, ideas, or base.

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Is it too early to put together something like this?:

Can someone post a complete list of those who are a least musing about running on the Pub side? I mean the number of names is giving me a headache. Ehrlich? Who is he? Some guy from Maryland or something?  That guy who was drawn out of his CD seat in the Baltimore burbs back in 2002? Are we up to a score of them yet? A lot of folks really seem to want to increase their speaking fee rate it seems.

Already announced their candidacy
Sen. Ted Cruz (TX)
Sen. Rand Paul (KY)
Sen. Marco Rubio (FL)

Planning to make an announcement next week
neurosurgeon Ben Carson
former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina
former Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR)

Has an exploratory committee
businessman Donald Trump

Has a "testing the waters" committee / 527
Sen. Lindsey Graham (SC)
Gov. John Kasich (OH)
former Sen. Rick Santorum (PA)
Gov. Scott Walker (WI)

Has a PAC that they seem to be using as a stealth presidential campaign
former UN Ambassador John Bolton
former Gov. Jeb Bush (FL)
Gov. Chris Christie (NJ)
Gov. Bobby Jindal (LA)
former Gov. George Pataki (NY)
former Gov. Rick Perry (TX)

Has been making trips to New Hampshire, and at least publicly says that a run for president is on the table
former Gov. Bob Ehrlich (MD)
former Gov. Jim Gilmore (VA)
Rep. Peter King (NY)

Has no PAC or exploratory committee, and has only made one recent visit to an early primary state, but has just recently started talking about the fact that he might run for president, and will make a decision soon
Gov. Rick Snyder (MI)

Had talked about running for president a few months ago, but have kind of dropped off the face of the Earth, and don't seem to be laying the groundwork at this point; still, they haven't given any kind of definitive statement ruling it out, so I guess it's still possible
former Gov. Sarah Palin (AK)
Gov. Mike Pence (IN)

So what is that?  23 names in total if you count everyone?

Hahaha I remember that post. I’d say the time is right.

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CITIZENS  FREEDOM  PARTY NEWS RELEASE -We are proud to announce that Mark B Graham of Okeechobee Florida is seeking the party nomination  for President in 2020

Drop out and endorse Trump!

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Trump, Bernie, and Tulsi are the only decent candidates so far. Glad he’s running again, because I’m not voting for Pence if the coup succeeds.

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Hey, if Ryan and Moulton both run, maybe they’ll split their vote and each only get a quarter-percent if the electorate instead of the half-percent each would otherwise be getting!

Not sure about that. Ryan will get about 0.6%, three times the support of Moulton, who will probably finish behind Marrianee Williams. But it’s Andrew Yang who will get the last laugh, because he’ll pull a Mike Braun and beat them both.

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Holder says he won't run:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/04/politics/eric-holder-not-running-2020/index.html

"Though I will not run for president in 2020, I will continue to fight for the future of our country through the National Democratic Redistricting Committee and its affiliates," Holder, who served under President Barack Obama, wrote in a Washington Post op-ed. He did not provide a reason for his decision.

That sucks, I was hoping he' d run and have the (many) Obama admin skeletons dragged out of the closet by his opportunistic rivals. But then again, the worst Obama era scandal took place when Loretta Lynch met Bill on the tarmac to begin plotting the coup.

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Beto is the biggest attention whore I’ve ever witnessed in politics, Trump aside.

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Beto is the biggest attention whore I’ve ever witnessed in politics, Trump aside.

I don't get the point in dragging it out if he's decided to run. There's no benefit in waiting since he's lost so much support from a few months ago.

I suppose its the same reason why John McCain always made himself the deciding vote.

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The fall will be too late for Hogan. He's not big of enough of a national figure to make up the difference in time for NH. I suspect he's leaning against running. Sure, running a scampaign against a uniformly popular incumbent (among Republicans, I mean) could make him some money I guess, but he seems like he has bigger problems to worry about than money,

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Anything new on Gillum?