Which of these groups of people will John Kerry raise taxes on if given...?

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What part of he'll only raise taxes on people who make over $200K don't you Republicans understand?

The part where he pays for tens of trillions of new spending with it.

[ATFFL]

What part of he'll only raise taxes on people who make over $200K don't you Republicans understand?

The part where he pays for tens of trillions of new spending with it.

Oh my g god, you guys are completely out of g touch with reality.

1. Kerry does not have tens of trillions of new spending, no matter what Bush's partisan hacks say

2. Bush cut revenues like crazy

3. The Bush adminstration has the fastest growing discretionary spending in 40 years

4. The Bush adminstration turned an $87B surplus into a $600 billion deficit.

5. The Bush adminstration turned a projected $5.6T deficit for this decade into a projected $4.5T deficit

6. Bush plans further tax cuts

7. Bush plans further spending hikes

Despite all of the amazingly stupid things you have posted on the forums I have never been rude to you.  Not once.  No matter how often you posted something that proved you were a brain dead idiot I never pointed it out.   Go away, learn some manners, and come back.

Now, for the content of your post, I will refute it for those with the brain power to understand.  You can stop reading here, none of this will make any sense to you, I am sure.

Here is an independent analysis of Kerry's spending and tax proposals.  It estimates he increases the deficit by 2.5 trillion in 10 years.

Here is another with the same conclusion.

What I engaged in is called hyperbole.  I know that is a long word so I will dumb things down for you in the hopes you understand if you are still with me.  Hyperbole is the use of exageration to make a point.

Revenue is growing again following a sharp decline cause by two events.  The first is the tech bubble bursting at the end of Clinton's term and the second is 9-11.  Revenue as a share of GDP is growing again too.

Bush is raising discretionary spending, that is true.  We are back up to levels not seen since, well 1994.    Damn them facts!

The 2004 defecit was $413 billion, not $600 billion.  Darn[/url them [url=http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041014/ts_nm/economy_budget_dc_4]facts

Kerry also plans tax cuts for the middle class, if you believe him. 

Yes, Bush plans more spending, and I am not thrilled about that.  I would prefer to cut a lot of plans.  he still plans less spending than Kerry.

Now, if you are still with me and all these facts contradicting what you want reality to be have not scared you off, I am going to reiterate my initial point.  Manners: Get some.

[ATFFL]

What part of he'll only raise taxes on people who make over $200K don't you Republicans understand?

The part where he pays for tens of trillions of new spending with it.

Oh my g god, you guys are completely out of g touch with reality.

1. Kerry does not have tens of trillions of new spending, no matter what Bush's partisan hacks say

2. Bush cut revenues like crazy

3. The Bush adminstration has the fastest growing discretionary spending in 40 years

4. The Bush adminstration turned an $87B surplus into a $600 billion deficit.

5. The Bush adminstration turned a projected $5.6T deficit for this decade into a projected $4.5T deficit

6. Bush plans further tax cuts

7. Bush plans further spending hikes

Despite all of the amazingly stupid things you have posted on the forums I have never been rude to you.  Not once.  No matter how often you posted something that proved you were a brain dead idiot I never pointed it out.   Go away, learn some manners, and come back.

Now, for the content of your post, I will refute it for those with the brain power to understand.  You can stop reading here, none of this will make any sense to you, I am sure.

Here is an independent analysis of Kerry's spending and tax proposals.  It estimates he increases the deficit by 2.5 trillion in 10 years.

Here is another with the same conclusion.

What I engaged in is called hyperbole.  I know that is a long word so I will dumb things down for you in the hopes you understand if you are still with me.  Hyperbole is the use of exageration to make a point.

Revenue is growing again following a sharp decline cause by two events.  The first is the tech bubble bursting at the end of Clinton's term and the second is 9-11.  Revenue as a share of GDP is growing again too.

Bush is raising discretionary spending, that is true.  We are back up to levels not seen since, well 1994.    Damn them facts!

The 2004 defecit was $413 billion, not $600 billion.  Darn[/url them [url=http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041014/ts_nm/economy_budget_dc_4]facts

Kerry also plans tax cuts for the middle class, if you believe him. 

Yes, Bush plans more spending, and I am not thrilled about that.  I would prefer to cut a lot of plans.  he still plans less spending than Kerry.

Now, if you are still with me and all these facts contradicting what you want reality to be have not scared you off, I am going to reiterate my initial point.  Manners: Get some.

Oh, I'm the stupid one?

$2.5 trillion is less than what Bush proposes in new spending. At least Kerry has a way to pay for at least part of his.

From your chart, you'll notice that discretionary spending went down under Clinton, and that he turned deficits into surpluses.

The $600 billion figure includes the money borrowed from Social Security. We are planning on paying that back, right?

Kerry also plans to cut tax loopholes, and go after tax havens. BTW, did you know that $300 something billion of taxes go unpaid each year? Even a fraction of that money could go a long way to reducing the deficit.

Bushies attacking Kerry for this is beyond just hypocritical.

Of course the Kerry proposal assumes we stop paying immediately for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither of them show up in his budget proposal at all

According to the CBO the 10 year prjected debt from Bush is 2.3 trillion.  If we remove Iraq and Afghanistan, as the Kerry budget does, the Bush deficit is .9 trillion over 10 years.

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Reality is likely to lie somewhere inbetween the two figures.  Kerry would have to add up to 1.4 trillion to his budget to pay for continuing operations unless he plans to pull out the instant the current supplemental appropriations bill runs out.