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Question: who would you favor in an Iran vs. US/Israel war?
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Leftbehind
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« on: March 09, 2012, 09:09:27 PM »
« edited: March 09, 2012, 09:11:31 PM by Leftbehind »

Circumstances dictate, really. If either side's clearly the aggressor, and we're seeing massive loss of life I'd probably come down on whichever side, but I'd normally be reluctant to support either, given it's a war between two sets of reactionaries.
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Leftbehind
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 09:14:16 PM »

A response of nuclear missiles should do it.
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Leftbehind
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 09:28:54 PM »

that either didn't make sense or I was not clear in what I was asking for.  please read Reply #43 and try again before I rephrase.

If, in your scenario, there was an Iranian airstrike/invasion of US/Israel territory as the first action, I'd obviously see Iran as the aggressors. But then if the US/Israel opted for a nuclear retaliation, that would be a scenario in which - despite Iran starting the war - I'd then classify them as the aggressors.

If you're asking a different question, you'll have to rephrase.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 03:54:16 AM »
« Edited: March 10, 2012, 04:10:40 AM by Leftbehind »

Well firstly you can favour a side in the conflict without "cheering" them on; ie I favour such-and-such countries right to retain their ability to set their own policies and to not have their politics imposed on them by a foreign country, which are often pursuing their own interests - and would be sad if they were defeated and lost that. Does that mean I actively want British soldiers dead? Of course not: it goes without saying - but equally I don't want soldiers of the country we're invading dead, either (and f' the jingoism that says I should give less of a sh**t). I'll also have to quibble with your use of "our enemies" as well, as if that's a given - I think Lief gave fine examples when people have justifiably disregarded any appeal to see the country they're at war with as enemies, and your Poland example completely sidesteps a case that's popularly seen as an easily defensible action but fits every definition of your "traitor" label, so you've effectively answered that with "but they're not freedom-loving and liberal like Finland!". The Poland example itself is particularly ill-fitting because wars defending countries from a foreign aggressor don't usually face nearly as much dissent.
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