Wrong-party governors?

[Keystone Phil]

to the center-right (Joe Lieberman).

You got almost everyline from that post from politics1.

But still, you gotta downright explain to me how Joe Lieberman is center-right!

Yes, I most certainly did.  They put it quite well enough.  And Lieberman is rather conservative, pushing for censorship laws and such.

Yes but look at his views on aborition, affirmative action, taxes...he's not the conservative Dem that people make him out to be.

[Keystone Phil]

   The Democrats were quite competitive in local Utah elections up till the 80s. The populist William Jennings Bryan style Democrats held sawy among many rural and small town voters in Utah for quite a long time.

  As for PA, I would not consider it a Northeastren State, despite its location. Even the area that Gore did best in, Philadelphia, does not share the zeal for social liberalism that the rest of the area has, also the Philadelphia metro area is the biggest metro area to have the least amount of demographic changes in the last 20 years. Excellent Democratic GOTV efforts in the Philadelphia area combined with Bush DUI stink in the weekend before election drove up Gore performance there.

Contrary to what you just said Philadelphia is socially liberal.  Maybe not as much as NYC or Boston, but still FAR greater than the rest of PA where abortion is very unpopular and guns are popular.

I agree. We are the most liberal part of the state (unfortunatley) but we are no San Fransisco.