Lumine/Rpryor for President/Vice-President (Defense Policy)

[Adam Griffin]

Wait, so you're telling me there are right-wingers who aren't content for their standard bearer in this presidential election to be a far-left Jill Stein supporter who got their feelings hurt by a bad party chair and decided they'd pretend to be a right-winger? Color me skeptical!

I wish your bald-ass head the best of luck!

[Adam Griffin]

[Lies and slander]

You're not "not the most conservative member of the Federalist Party" nor are you even a "moderate": you're a blatant left-winger (arguably to the left of myself!) who made their career over spilled milk and the fact that one (or more?!) people on the Right wanted to have sexy times with you. Now you're President because of a series of acts involving schemes and corruption.

I actually don't think most Federalists know that, as I understand how the game works all too well. I can only hope Lumine makes a case to all of those principled zombies and players who don't know any better!

[Adam Griffin]

And you shouldn't flatter yourself too much about any of this: I have always called out ideological discrepancies when and where they exist, whether it's in one party or another. I'd be raging if ChairmanSanchez or whomever was a Labor Party President pretending to be a "moderate" all the same, because it'd be just as ri-goddamn-diculous as the current situation.

[Adam Griffin]

LOL, I know plenty to make a judgement call. Because just like poor Ben Kenobi who you used for political gain and just like your current internet Fantasyland boyfriend that you're using for votes, you are just one of many archetypes that I've seen cycle through this time plenty of times. I don't have to know you (and certainly not in the Biblical sense!) to see it for what it is.

The difference between somebody like Ted - who had been legitimately shifting left in reality for quite some time - and somebody like you who is still a rabid leftist Jill Stein supporter pretending to be something completely clear across the spectrum (while simultaneously trying to be everything to everybody) doesn't really need to be explained.

the Federalist Party, is nobody's bitch

And if you're a Federalist, then that label means nothing anymore: I guess we can thank the last President for that if so. I don't have to be a Federalist to know that. I've lived throughout its entire existence, done political battle with every one of its key leaders over that time and certainly know its machinations even better than you (and yes, even when I'm not paying attention to the game).

Even if the Old Guard has allowed their own party to be hollowed out and stand for nothing more than a walking ideological hypocrisy of personality cultism in the pursuit of victory, that still applies and it's still obvious to this somebody who isn't "active in this game".

[Adam Griffin]

[Sorry to have derailed your thread, Lumine - I'll let this illegitimate opportunist of a President and company respond in whatever way they desire without weighing in further]

* Though I make no guarantees when Yankee inevitably storms in at 1 AM and starts with his 1,000 word quote-storms

[Adam Griffin]

Various and hilarious concern-trollings and mirror-holdings from a well-known crypto-fascist

Do you want PMs and logs to get leaked? Because that's how PMs and logs get leaked.

There's a very concrete paper trail and/or multiple people witness to conversations for everything I've said here - and don't think for a second that I was dumb enough not to consider people yelling "FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT - SEXISM!" (as if some Constitution Party avatar cares, lol) and would actually say anything that I have said without plenty of actual backup in existence.

If at any point during my heyday there had been some male running for President who had been wooing, flirting with and taking advantage of one bigger fish after another to expedite their political career in Fantasyland, I'd be calling it out then, too - happily! It just never happened! Plenty of relationships have existed over the years here, but not in this context.

But anyway, as the Olds should accurately testify (if they're being honest!), I never go for the jugular with a knife made out of aluminium foil in my hand. I can't help it everybody is always messaging me, sharing content and telling me what's going on here, even after I've clearly walked away from here. Everything can be formally dug up and published in due time if the alternative is to accuse me of being a sexist and/or a liar.

[Adam Griffin]

Oh, and to those trying to give poor innocent rpryor a hard time for voting for me in October 2016, it's important to remember that I won like one-third (or more?) of the conservative vote in that election. It was an absolute barnstorming, shit-slamming, domination election among a 60% conservative electorate.

And the Federalists lost in large part because they ran a generic candidate who nobody really asked for and who was far too much of an ideological wishy-washy to keep the party in check. Live and learn!

[Adam Griffin]

I have plenty of logs and such too, wanna dance?

I've never had to pretend to be Nice Guy FF to get anywhere in this game. I wonder whose reputation would take more of a hit? I've also already done everything I wanted so...

[Adam Griffin]

I have plenty of logs and such too, wanna dance?

I've never had to pretend to be Nice Guy FF to get anywhere in this game. I wonder whose reputation would take more of a hit? I've also already done everything I wanted so...

pls, everyone knows I just get things done, I don't have to play Nice Guy FF either, people see me as a #shadypartyboss these days, just like they see you the same way, though I don't think I've ever publicly backstabbed anyone, wanna be the first? I've been in pretty much every position, hit me.

But you had to pretend to be one to get there, which is so sad and most of the reason I have issues with you and a handful of others - for building your career on a bed of lies and opportunism (the easy way out)!

But I'm sorry you thought I was addressing you - typo on my part (should've said Nice Girl FF - there goes my sexism again!).

[Adam Griffin]

[Adam Griffin]

Yankee opposes me having voted for Adam Griffin, yet supports a President who voted for NeverAgain in February? That's what I call:

OMFG I lost that for the longest, I am so glad people still have it saved!

[Adam Griffin]

(should've said Nice Girl FF - there goes my sexism again!).

[Adam Griffin]

(should've said Nice Girl FF - there goes my sexism again!).

[Adam Griffin]

(should've said Nice Girl FF - there goes my sexism again!).

[Adam Griffin]

Oh, and to those trying to give poor innocent rpryor a hard time for voting for me in October 2016, it's important to remember that I won like one-third (or more?) of the conservative vote in that election. It was an absolute barnstorming, shit-slamming, domination election among a 60% conservative electorate.

And the Federalists lost in large part because they ran a generic candidate who nobody really asked for and who was far too much of an ideological wishy-washy to keep the party in check. Live and learn!

You didn't run for President in October 2016. Blair and I did!

You are confusing October 2015 which I didn't cite, with February 2016, which I did. and confusing Cris with Leinad.

You only beat Leinad by like 5 votes in that February 2016, the right was largely unified. I think the dementia is kicking in there old man.  

Oh dear lord Yankee are you really trying to make your point based on a typo?

No, I was talking about Cris and October 20165 - sorry to have triggered you! I honestly thought I lost rpryor's vote in February 2016 but I must have been thinking of somebody else.  

But now that you mention it, I beat Leinad in February 2016 by 5 - yes - but the electorate was closer to 65% conservative then. Truly amazing - if not more than October 2015! I fought off primary challenges and nobody - nobody - thought I was going to win re-election.

Maybe I should go back through the rolls and see how many other Federalists and conservatives should be permanently disqualified from running from office based on their votes in October 2015 and February 2016 then!

[Adam Griffin]

    Nobody is suggesting that voting for you should disqualify a Federalist from running for office. Now if they want to run as being more-conservative-than-thou after having done so, of course they are going to be called out for it.

But I'm pretty sure that is exactly what just happened above?

Surely you of all people can remember that the elections to which Old Man Yankee et al are referring were largely depolarized affairs, centered around saving this game from the destructive forces (including excessive regionalism!) that had plagued it for too long. Many people - including one-third of conservatives in October 2015 - voted for me because they understood that I was the best choice to ensure the radical forces were defeated and that game reform was successfully implemented - and they were right.

What's the excuse now?

[Adam Griffin]

     Nobody is suggesting that voting for you should disqualify a Federalist from running for office. Now if they want to run as being more-conservative-than-thou after having done so, of course they are going to be called out for it.

But I'm pretty sure that is exactly what just happened above?

Surely you of all people can remember that the elections to which Old Man Yankee et al are referring were largely depolarized affairs, centered around saving this game from the destructive forces (including excessive regionalism!) that had plagued it for too long. Many people - including one-third of conservatives in October 2015 - voted for me because they understood that I was the best choice to ensure the radical forces were defeated and that game reform was successfully implemented - and they were right.

What's the excuse now?

     And two-thirds of conservatives voted against you because we didn't want a Labor President. For one of that one-third to be upset over the party nominating a Presidential candidate who does not have a sterling conservative record going back to the dawn of time is stunningly tone-deaf to those of us who did care about contesting the Presidency.

Well, if y'all get your way, you're basically about to elect another one - with an endorsement to boot!