Pacific Council: Great Reform Amendment: Voting on an Amendment.

[Flake]

I'd like to bring this to a vote, seeing as I find nothing flawed in this yet.

[Flake]

We should have a capital city, I have a wonderful list here of some cities we could choose:
Fairbanks, Alaska
Anchorage, Alaska
Seattle, Washington
Spokane, Washington
Portland, Oregon
Eugene, Oregon
Los Angeles, California
San Francisco, California
Boise, Idaho
Coeur d'Alene
Salt Lake City, Utah
Provo, Utah
Phoenix, Arizona
Tucson, Arizona
Honolulu, Hawaii
Hilo, Hawaii
Carson City, Nevada
Las Vegas, Nevada
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Las Cruces, New Mexico

I also think we should add an amendment when a councillor misses five votes, they are automatically recalled.

We should make it so people cannot smoke in public spaces and in restaurants and apartment buildings.

We should add absentee voting for regional elections.

We need to also add that consenting, adult, Pacificans can marry another consenting, adult, Pacifican.

We need to add that a woman is guaranteed a right to have an abortion.

[Flake]

I agree that the capital should remain San Francisco.

I also think we should add an amendment when a councillor misses five votes, they are automatically recalled.

We should make it so people cannot smoke in public spaces and in restaurants and apartment buildings.

We should add absentee voting for regional elections.

We need to also add that consenting, adult, Pacificans can marry another consenting, adult, Pacifican.

We need to add that a woman is guaranteed a right to have an abortion.

1) I think that we can add a statement saying that the Council can legislate the meaning of "poor behavior" to the extent that it is consistent with the tone of the existing text. If that means 5 votes and you're out, so be it.

2) Banning smoking in apartment buildings should be left up to the landowner, and restaurants to the owner/proprietor. Banning smoking in public places as a blanket is a little dangerous, but we can make a more complicated rule banning smoking within x distance of a non-smoker, or something.

3) Is absentee voting really necessary?

4) Agreed. Perhaps we could widen the breadth of the current clause 13 of the Bill of Rights, like the US Constitution did, so as not to disparage other unstated rights held by the citizens.

5) The right to hold an abortion is important, and we actually included it in the original text. However, we need to be really careful about it, and it may be better served to be an amendment due to how complicated the issue is. I'd like to hear some opinions on it.

3. I think absentee voting will increase voter turnout in the Pacific and let all to have a voice, whether they have internet the election weekend or not.

[Flake]

I'd like to amend #14 to cover all who enter high school below the age of 22, basically covering all people from age three to age twenty one because I know some people who dropped out of school during the recession, and they only needed one more credit, all of whom were 21 years old. I would also let it so all Pacificans can get their education by an online program called PVS (Pacific Virtual School).

[Flake]

I'd like to amend #14 to cover all who enter high school below the age of 22, basically covering all people from age three to age twenty one because I know some people who dropped out of school during the recession, and they only needed one more credit, all of whom were 21 years old. I would also let it so all Pacificans can get their education by an online program called PVS (Pacific Virtual School).

The Pacific Virtual School should be open to residents of the Pacific and anyone from 4 years of age to 19 years of age.

[Flake]

I'd like to amend #14 to cover all who enter high school below the age of 22, basically covering all people from age three to age twenty one because I know some people who dropped out of school during the recession, and they only needed one more credit, all of whom were 21 years old. I would also let it so all Pacificans can get their education by an online program called PVS (Pacific Virtual School).

The Pacific Virtual School should be open to residents of the Pacific and anyone from 4 years of age to 19 years of age.

Why don't we just make it people who haven't graduated high school?

Because some people are homeschooled or have no way to get to a school (e.g. parts of Alaska, Idaho, Utah) and this is the best way for them to get an education.

[Flake]

I'm not a member of this Council any more but as author of the Constitution I'm going to come out and say that a "virtual school" is a singularly awful idea and aside from that should absolutely not be the kind of thing guaranteed in a constitution.

If you're really set on this save it for legislation.

I agree with this. This is not some random bill, but the Constitution.

Alright, I'll propose it for legislation after we pass this new constitution.

[Flake]

Nay

[Flake]

Is there any way we can get terrorist organizations exiled from the Pacific or sent to a high security prison in a rural swath in the desert or the tundra?

[Flake]

bump!

[Flake]

Can I co-sponsor?

[Flake]

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain on this amendment.

[Flake]

Aye

[Flake]

Aye

[Flake]

The amendment has passed with three ayes, and two not voting. (Do I ask PJ to sign it?