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Simfan34
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« on: September 09, 2012, 02:04:20 AM »
« edited: September 09, 2012, 02:07:58 AM by Simfan34 »

Read this in the times. Will post link. Singapore continues to be an FF country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/world/asia/singapores-prime-minister-warns-china-on-view-of-us.html

The world's best-run nation stands up for the world's greatest nation. If Asia can act in concert... it would be a formidable force against China.
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Simfan34
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 01:16:48 PM »
« Edited: September 09, 2012, 01:39:19 PM by Simfan34 »

Hah, what a funny little 'country'.  I wouldn't take anything seriously about their opinions.

Typical Westerner. As always, Europeans are the only non-Americans with "legitimate" politics.

1. Opebo lives in Thailand and hates America.
2. Singapore is literally fascist. I wouldn't listen to them either (and I don't get why we have a FTA with a nation that bans unions).

http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2006/09/05/the-fascism-of-singapore/

Singapore, other than being non-white, is what the GOP wants for America.

Singapore is what I want for America, yes. If only my party shared that view. Singapore shows what a country can do when a government is committed to governing and has a longterm vision of improvement and a goal of self determination. Singapore was once a swamp. Now look at it today. The PAP government is a good demonstration of state intervention being used towards a greater goal of development and a sustainable free market economy. Unlike Hong Kong, dominated by a few oligarchs and wholly undemocratic, Singapore is far more open, both economically and politically. Also, its the world's only slum free major city, but don't let that get in the way of your agenda.

It is unfortunate to see that Singaporean youth are becoming decadent, I assume embracing immorality, promiscuity, and delayed maturation like their American fellows. One might hope the traditional values of society shall react against that. Thankfully Singapore is not Japan in the regards that it rejects immigrants, that certainly would be an odd stance for a Chinese enclave in Malaya. There are many wealthy Chinese (and others not so wealthy) who seek to leave that country, and since regrettably the United States does not seem willing to accommodate them and take as many immigrants from Asia as possible, hopefully Singapore can have another influx or two.

Of course declining birth rates are a bad thing. They mean smaller workforces, labour shortages, unfunded pension obligations, lack of innovation, smaller tax bases, etc. etc.

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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 02:40:06 PM »
« Edited: September 09, 2012, 02:42:59 PM by Simfan34 »

He's saying what the top echelons of China are all thinking. Both sides want to push each other's hand, but not to the point of collapse. The political structure of China and its foreign-dependent economy makes the nation unable to lead like the US for at least the next decade or two.

Oh, so another Westerner trying to teach the "natives" how to act like Europe...
Singapore provides an economic and political model in contrast to the failing Western style of governance, so it's only natural it would inspire such hostility.

The funny thing being that the Lee family - educated in Cambridge and all - follow a very western style of governance. It's more of a conservative-modern thing.

So a model very much adaptable to the West? Shall I found the Peoples' Action Caucus, or do I misunderstand you?

But it's not surprising long-lasting and strong founded ways of conservative governance would arouse such passion amongst leftists.

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I would view the "decadence" problem in a more dialectical light.
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Might you explain?
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2012, 06:30:38 AM »

It is unfortunate to see that Singaporean youth are becoming decadent, I assume embracing immorality, promiscuity, and delayed maturation like their American fellows. One might hope the traditional values of society shall react against that.

My opinion of you just went down several notches Sad

It's still very positive, just not as much as it was before.

But why?
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