Provisional Parliament: Voting on Amendment

[Talleyrand]

I move to suspend rules and move to a vote on Hashemite being elected President.

Don't you mean a final vote on the bill itself? As long as no one objects to the amendment proposed by SJoyce, he is already designated as President.

[Talleyrand]

Not really. If we want this game to co-exist with Atlasia, it doesn't make any sense for people to be able to hold offices in both countries. That makes absolutely no sense, especially in situations where we're conducting foreign relations and the like. It should also be noted that it doesn't prevent people from being citizens of both countries, just holding offices in both.

[Talleyrand]

It doesn't matter to me whether Atlasia is dead or not; in fact, I think it'd actually be more interesting if survived simply b/c of the foreign relations aspect we could bring to mock parliament.

If you have time to do both, then you can be an officeholder in one and and an active non-office holding player in the other. Is that really so difficult?

[Talleyrand]

Individuals can still run for office while an officeholder in Atlasia; all that clause does is force them to choose which one to serve in should they be elected to an office in South America as well. It doesn't force anyone to automatically pick anything.

[Talleyrand]

You would pick South America because it has a lot more uncertainty, excitement, and intrigue to offer in a game. If someone is only interested in having a position, obviously they would pick Atlasia, where there is a massive surplus of offices (although I've heard that there is an effort to trim this down atm).

In addition, there are multiple roles in a parliament besides PM, including a huge set of ministries. Not to mention that there are widely differing levels of activity required in this game. For example, all a backbench MP is expected to do here (at least now) is show up and vote and maybe occasionally make a comment. You would be crucified if that's all you did as an officeholder in the Atlasian Senate.

Regardless, it doesn't make any sense if we're trying to put these two games in the same universe to allow someone to serve, say as both as an MP in South America and a Senator in Atlasia, especially when we try to inject foreign affairs into the game.

[Talleyrand]

Aye

[Talleyrand]

Nay

[Talleyrand]

Allotted voting time is up and the clause is upheld.

what? there were more votes to strike than to keep

Yes, this (unfortunately IMO) happens to be the case.

Anyway, I also move for a final vote on this bill.

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[Talleyrand]

Aye