France bans the Burka and other veils

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It needs to be remembered that the small number of Western Muslim women who do wear full-faced veils when in public will not be 'liberated' by such bans in any way at all. They will simply not appear in public. I'm not sure how this can be defended on any of the 'progressive' grounds sometimes used to justify such bans.
Of course, the reality of the situation is quite different. The purpose of such legislation is not to 'liberate' a small number of women. The purpose of such legislation is to make it quite clear to a minority group that it is not welcome.

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I support a British culture not just an English one for a start off,

But what is this unitary (and it must be unitary if can be used in the context of 'no multiculturalism') 'British culture', exactly? There isn't even a standard way of speaking English in England.

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If being able to speaking English well (because everyone in Britain can speak it at least a little bit) is an essential part of the 'national culture', then are old people from Gwynedd, western Anglesey and the Amman Valley no longer 'British'? Hardly any Muslims in Britain have much trouble with speaking English anyway; broken English is more a feature of various Christian immigrants (Poles, some west Africans, etc).

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Ignoring the problematic use of the term 'forcing', it isn't normal among the various Muslim communities in this country either.

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And to a much larger group than just those whose wives wear Burqahs, of course.

Yeah. There was a post ag made about the madness in Arizona that seems related to that... wait a minute...

As a Jew, albeit non-practicing, I know, how I would react to a law banning the use  of human baby blood in ritual food made of wheat.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Plenty of western women get battered because they don't dress as their husbands or partners like, fwiw. I'm not sure that, as a society, we are in a strong position to moralise on this issue.

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The solution is to focus on assimilating immigrants rather than multiculturalism, which has utterly failed in the UK, imo.

I dunno man, you guys seem to really dig the Chicken Tikka Masala.

That's not Indian, though.

I think that might be his point; is there a finer symbol of multiculturalism than the Chicken Tikka Masala?

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But that could be construed as successful assimilation rather than multiculturalism.

No. Assimilation would be restaurants owned by Asians selling roast chicken with gravy.