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smoltchanov
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« on: December 02, 2017, 01:26:39 AM »

Pandora box. I am reasonably sure that at least 1/3 of Congressmembers did something that could be classified "inapproprite sexual behavoir" at some moments in their careers. In Russia 99% of Duma's deputies do it routinely, and no one (including women in question) even pays attention. ANY attention.... It's simply "a norm"...
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smoltchanov
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2017, 01:37:32 AM »

Pandora box. I am reasonably sure that at least 1/3 of Congressmembers did something that could be classified "inapproprite sexual behavoir" at some moments in their careers. In Russia 99% of Duma's deputies do it routinely, and no one (including women in question) even pays attention. ANY attention.... It's simply "a norm"...

yeah america needs to be like russia

(not)

You make your choices, Russia makes it's choices. Mentality is different. No one in Russia would even think to complain. The pressing problem here is economical survival, not this "foolishness" (and it's considered to be a "foolishness" by 99% of population, including women). Raging feminism is extremely unpopular in Russia even among women. Condemn it as much as you want, but it's a fact.
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smoltchanov
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2017, 02:09:51 AM »


Likely/Safe D ——> Likely/Safe D with some other Democrat.

I always envied your optimism. Safe D in, essentially, swing district? I am laughing heartily....
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smoltchanov
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2017, 07:26:09 AM »


Likely/Safe D ——> Likely/Safe D with some other Democrat.

I always envied your optimism. Safe D in, essentially, swing district? I am laughing heartily....

No, Safe D in a D+2 district, in an increasing-blue Nevada, in a Trump midterm.

D+2 is, essentially, swing district. Increasingly blue? In long-term perspective - yes, but we speak about 2018. What remains? Trump midterm? No one forces Republicans to nominate open Trumpist.
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smoltchanov
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 08:02:43 AM »


Likely/Safe D ——> Likely/Safe D with some other Democrat.

I always envied your optimism. Safe D in, essentially, swing district? I am laughing heartily....

No, Safe D in a D+2 district, in an increasing-blue Nevada, in a Trump midterm.

D+2 is, essentially, swing district. Increasingly blue? In long-term perspective - yes, but we speak about 2018. What remains? Trump midterm? No one forces Republicans to nominate open Trumpist.

You say that as if it matters. Any Republican running in a swingy district next year will be absolutely bludgeoned with the Trump card, full-stop, and Nevadans roundly loathe him up and down the state.

One more optimist. We will see Nov. 6th.
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smoltchanov
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 04:22:24 AM »
« Edited: December 06, 2017, 04:42:15 AM by smoltchanov »

I really can't understand one thing in all these "sexual harrasment" cases: what happened to presumption of innocence? Until now my feeling was that a person is NOT guilty until COURTS prove it's guilt. Now, after almost EVERY accusation of "inappropriate behavoir," we hear "Resign!" immediately. No courts at all. In general - why everyone takes these accusations as bona fide "truth"? I know many cases where alleged victims lied (even in court), held grudge against accused, even cases where "victim"  accused (a man in that case) after sex (consentual) of rape simply because he refused to marry her.
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smoltchanov
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,402
Russian Federation


« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 05:03:58 AM »

I really can't understand one thing in all these "sexual harrasment" cases: what happened to presumption of innocence? Until now my feeling was that a person is NOT guilty until COURTS prove it's guilt. Now, after almost EVERY accusation of "inappropriate behavoir," we hear "Resign!" immediately. No courts at all. In general - why everyone takes these accusations as bona fide "truth"? I know many cases where alleged victims lied (even in court), held grudge against accused, even cases where "victim"  accused (a man in that case) after sex (consentual) of rape simply because he refused to marry her.

Presumption of innocence is for legal proceedings, and should remain there. There's absolutely no precedent for the presumption of innocence in the court of public opinion.

Opinion, but not demand
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