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« on: December 26, 2004, 10:49:30 AM »


When will the Tories dump the total jerk they currently have as their leader.

He seems to personify Burke's observation of Conservatives at the 'stupid party.'


Howard isn’t that bad, it’s a verdict on the lack of new talent within the Conservative Party at the moment and the inability of the Conservatives to spot what little talent there is there that he is leader at all. David Davis is about the most promising candidate for the leadership, policy wise he’s a conservative populist and despite strong support from the less than innovative rightwing of the party he has a proven record as a pragmatic politician, he does however have a marginal seat though… any other contender is too young, discredited or just not electable, David Cameron and George Osborne are potential future leaders, John Redwood (hard rightwing of the party) will run for the leadership when and if Howard goes as will Tim Yeo  (Libertarian wing) and both will lose as will the openly gay libertarian MP Alan Duncan, few seem to picked up on just how strong Davis’ position within the Conservative Party and if Howard goes sometime in the next parliament Davis will be very likely to take the leadership.

On the issue of the LDs electoral chances, if you crunch the number even if they go from their 19% in 2001 to 21-23% this time around they may still remain fairly static in terms of seats. They stand to lose some to the Conservatives Torridge, Hereford, Weston Super-Mare and Norfolk North while they can probably make up for such loses with gains from the Conservatives in seats such as Taunton, Dorset West and Maidenhead and will make gains from Labour. However they are limited in number of seats they can gain from Labour because there are very few Labour/LD marginals and many of the seats where the LDs are in second place to Labour have huge Labour majorities… so I think they’ll get about 60 or so seats maybe slightly less but Kennedy will be weaker after this election despite an increased share of the vote, because he has raised expectations.                               
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2004, 04:49:26 PM »

I think they are due for a comeback in Wales at least in the coming election as they have been doing quite well in the Assembly elections there (up to 11 of the 60 seats now)

Out of the 11, only 1 is a direct seat; the others come from the bizarre form of PR used in Wales.
Mind you there are two seats in Wales (Monmouth, Clwyd West) that were drawn to be safe Tory seats

Monmoth is a pretty sure fire pickup for the Conservatives IMHO, probably Clwyd West and the Northern of the two pembrokshire seats is a likley conservative gains as well... 
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2004, 07:27:22 PM »


I don't see the Tories picking up Preseli Pembroke unless they can somehow unite the non-Labour vote in the seat.


Fair piont, but i think its possible. If the Conservatives can't win this seat there in real trouble IMHO.
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2004, 10:03:32 AM »


I though there were a few under Blair; has every by-election been Labour and LD.


Pretty much, that said Labour's had some bad by-election over the last two years or so mostly in urban "safe Labour" seats its lost two and held two and in both cases the Conservatives have sunk to third and the LD either won or come second on the anti-war ticket... that said three of those four seats had signifcant Muslim populations.   
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