NYPD: Man with pipe fatally shot by officers in Brooklyn

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And yet whites with actual loaded guns are being arrested without harm, a cop should be able to tell the difference between a gun and a pipe, period. Funny how this man likely had a mental illness but his complexion doesn't afford him that excuse.

They're not being arrested while literally pointing that gun at civilians. Both Cruz and Rooff, while they undeniably deserved to die, had surrendered or were unarmed when they were taken down.

Lumping cases like this, where the officers had legit reason to believe they had seconds to save lives, in with cases like Stephon Clark just serves to weaken the prosecution in those cases.

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And yet whites with actual loaded guns are being arrested without harm, a cop should be able to tell the difference between a gun and a pipe, period. Funny how this man likely had a mental illness but his complexion doesn't afford him that excuse.

They're not being arrested while literally pointing that gun at civilians. Both Cruz and Rooff, while they undeniably deserved to die, had surrendered or were unarmed when they were taken down.

Lumping cases like this, where the officers had legit reason to believe they had seconds to save lives, in with cases like Stephon Clark just serves to weaken the prosecution in those cases.

Oh?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/white-n-c-man-arrested-after-pulling-gun-on-deputy-who-wrestled-it-away-sheriff-says/?utm_term=.cd4137f7ae3e

https://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/8-white-people-who-pointed-guns-police-officers-and-managed-not-get-killed

Okay, so you found a few cases of cops who went above and beyond, possibly because the suspect was white.

This guy had something that looked very much like a gun, he was holding it like a gun, and he was actively pointing it at children on the street. That's on video. The cops rolled up and had seconds to respond.

There's been a lot of cases where police were in zero danger, had no indication that the suspect was going to hurt anyone or was even capable of it. This isn't one of those cases. I'm not sure if it was an actual suicide-by-cop, but it has all the hallmarks.

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When one is presented with an issue of a police shooting, one should ask themselves whether the perpetrator, for whatever they did, deserved to die for that. The answer is usually no. This was a dumb thing to do, but did he deserve to die for it? Probably not.

That's not what the police are there to determine. They're there to determine how to keep the public safe.

In this case, they had a clear view of him pointing what looked very much like a gun at passer-bys.

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When one is presented with an issue of a police shooting, one should ask themselves whether the perpetrator, for whatever they did, deserved to die for that. The answer is usually no. This was a dumb thing to do, but did he deserve to die for it? Probably not.

That's not what the police are there to determine. They're there to determine how to keep the public safe.

In this case, they had a clear view of him pointing what looked very much like a gun at passer-bys.

But it wasn't an actual gun. Shouldn't they determine that before doing something as egregious as shooting him to death? Arrest him if you need to. That's fine. An officer should take whatever precautions they need to but it still seems impulsive to shoot him to death.

Ideally, they would have time to determine that, yeah. In this situation, though, they were called with a report of a gun and they rolled up to see him pointing that "gun" at the heads of passerbys. It's an undeniably tragic situation, yes, but one where waiting could have resulted in many more dead people.