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AmericanNation
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« on: April 07, 2012, 09:05:51 AM »
« edited: April 07, 2012, 09:08:56 AM by AmericanNation »

If Romney picks Ryan as has been rumored, attack ads in Florida will be

"Paul Ryan authored the plan that would effectively end Medicare as we know it".

And Obama wins Florida.
So,
if the status quo continues = medicare ends
if Obamacare takes effect = medicare ends
if Paul Ryan's budget passes = medicare survives

Lying is a tougher sell than the truth in my opinion.
Obama has major problems in Florida.
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 10:03:22 AM »

He is probably going to win it anyways. Not like it would ever happen anyways. Ryan would be an idiot to take a chance to be a losing VP candidate and give up what he has now.

I don't understand your 1st sentence.  Ryan doesn't have to give up his congressional seat (remember Lieberman ran for reelection and VP) and VP nomination would make him a national leader not just a republican leader.  I know losing VP has a history of problems, but FDR didn't.  It is a real possibility because it is the only way to get him out of the box he's in... He couldn't run for Governor or Senator because it would have been a step down from budget chairman.  Only options for him are VP or speaker.  Hard to run from current position next time, even if he is the brains of the party.  Maybe if he chaired Ways and means he'd have a prestigious enough resume, but it is hard to become president from a congressional seat.  Easier being the next guy in line in the GOP or a sitting Vice President.             
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 11:28:08 AM »

Not all states allow someone to run for two offices simultaneously.  I know you can't in South Carolina.  I don't know what the law is like in Wisconsin.

Ryan’s office confirmed that according to Wisconsin law, Ryan can run on the GOP national ticket and for re-election to his House seat. (They made sure to say they checked, because  many people had asked.)

This case is a federal office and a state office, not two state offices so, I see that as a lot less problematic and a lot of states have laws addressing that distinction.  I've herd them called "LBJ" laws because he apparently 'had' Texas change it's law so he could run for Senate and VP.           
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 03:58:59 PM »

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/295206/emperor-has-no-plan-editors

When you hear Obama making crap up about Ryan's plan (and than repeating the same speech verbatim) don't you ask yourself "where is Obama's plan?"  Why hasn't the democrat senate passed a budget?  Why don't you do your job Mr. President before you criticize Mr. Ryan for doing his job? 
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 04:26:38 PM »

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/04/04/maybe-paul-ryan-should-have-called-it-a-trojan-condom-budget/

As an added bonus, it was more than a bit odd to hear Barack Obama call Paul Ryan a social darwinist considering Barack Obama remains the only member of the Illinois State Senate to speak in favor of infanticide from the floor. 
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 07:01:54 PM »

How is he going to simultaneously suppress the vote and turn it out? ??  How is a republican governor going to fabricate votes? ??  the Tallahassee-cook county machine? 

I'm getting sick of this "ending as we know it" crap.  A slight change for the better isn't "ending as we know it."  Try not to lie or be hugely misleading when you repeat something a million times. 

Medicare works pretty well because it leaches off of the rest of the system by stiffing doctors 30% of the bill which is then picked up via higher costs for everyone else.  Guess what happens when Obamacare throws a huge wrench in that racket.  "Medicare ends as we know it."  O, and stealing 500 billion from medicare probably doesn't help sustain it either.  Thanks Obama. 
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 07:14:03 PM »

Fraudulent signatures on: Primary petitions, Absentee ballots, Doctors’ orders, and recall petitions   
 are becoming the signature of desperate Democrats who play the electoral game by one set of rules: By Any Means Necessary.
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 08:06:28 AM »


To the Republicans, "fair and honest voting" means voting in which only those voters that Republicans think "fair and honest" -- white Anglo property owners -- vote. Voter ID laws are intended to ensure that voting becomes more difficult and time-consuming, creating longer lines especially in places that get inadequate voting devices. If the signature does not match one needs to show that one is who one claims to be. There may be multiple applications for voter registration but one only gets one.

You imply through juxtaposition that minorities 'have no idea of what the issues are'. Being part of a minority and getting a raw deal from the economic system, I would think, would make one more aware than usual 'what the issues are'. Such people know well that "All for the Few" economics has noting to offer them.
How about:
1) the person who votes IS the registered voter they claim to be.   
2) one person one vote.
3) the people not allowed to vote by law, aren't allowed to.
Is that to much to ask?... Of course not. 
Are those three objectives 'accomplished' by voter ID laws?... Yes
Is this an actual appropriate use of government?... Yes
Is showing an ID a burden?... No
Is the integrity of elections important?...yes
Does voter fraud occur?...yes
Is voter fraud disenfranchising non-fraudulent votes?...yes

It looks really bad when democrats oppose a common sense, 80% approval, supreme court approved law.  Stop ginning up class warfare and race wars over nothing.       
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