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Sec. of State Superique
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« on: March 30, 2013, 10:31:32 PM »

LOL Yesh Atid with the Jewish Home! That looks like the LibDems working on with the UKIP haha Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2013, 08:33:08 PM »

LOL Yesh Atid with the Jewish Home! That looks like the LibDems working on with the UKIP haha Tongue

They are not that different really. Yes, JH is somewhat more religious and hawkish. But they both don't like the Haredi parties, and share similar economic views. Look at what Ayelet Shaked (JH) wrote after the coalition was agreed upon: "For the first time in Israel we will have a clear right wing liberal economic coalition and a clear social democratic opposition."

Yes, I see what you mean but what surprised me most is that Yesh Atid and Jewish Home are working tightly close. They have some similarities on the social issues, on the Orthodox Draft and , in some ways, on the economical views but their differences on foreign policy are so great that a partnership between both amazes me a lot!

Actually, Yesh Atid wants a two state solution that looks closer to what Netanyahu proposed on the Bar-Ilan Speech and that is why I'm ok with its participation on Likud's Coalition. But the Jewish Home participation was just a way to please Likud backbenchers and unsatisfied right-wing voters......

I believe that this Coalition won't stand for so much longer.

Also, one question: Why Kadima was vanished on this election?
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2013, 09:28:32 PM »

I personally like Yesh Atid and Hatnuah but a government could be formed without them. Bibi could create a hawkish coalition formed by the Jewish Home, Shas and United Torah Judaism. If Hatnuah or Kadima supported them, then Bibi would have a feasible majority.

Likud (31), JH (12), Shas (11), UTJ (7) = 61 MKs
Likud (31), JH (12), Shas (11), UTJ (7), Hatnuah (6) and Kadima (2) = 69 MKs

Without Atid, Bibi wouldn't bother on having a bigger cabinet to please everyone. Keep the settlers, put Livini on Justice , Kadima on nothing and just please JH, Shas and UTJ with good cabinet rankings... What about Finance for Bennet?
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2013, 09:37:27 PM »

I personally like Yesh Atid and Hatnuah but a government could be formed without them. Bibi could create a hawkish coalition formed by the Jewish Home, Shas and United Torah Judaism. If Hatnuah or Kadima supported them, then Bibi would have a feasible majority.

Likud (31), JH (12), Shas (11), UTJ (7) = 61 MKs
Likud (31), JH (12), Shas (11), UTJ (7), Hatnuah (6) and Kadima (2) = 69 MKs

Without Atid, Bibi wouldn't bother on having a bigger cabinet to please everyone. Keep the settlers, put Livini on Justice , Kadima on nothing and just please JH, Shas and UTJ with good cabinet rankings... What about Finance for Bennet?

The deal I talked about in my prior post worked both ways, so when Bibi tried forming this coalition you propose, JH refused and said that they would only join with Lapid.

Poor Bibi, Crazy Bennet! Bennet would be the second in line on this coalition and his plan for a great Israel would have great support! Thought I don't like Bennet's idea, I think he has made a terrible political miscalculation.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 04:21:21 PM »

So I think I don't like Lapid anymore Sad
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 04:30:01 PM »


Poor Bibi, Crazy Bennet! Bennet would be the second in line on this coalition and his plan for a great Israel would have great support! Thought I don't like Bennet's idea, I think he has made a terrible political miscalculation.

I disagree, Lapid and the Haredi are not effectively different when it comes to foreign policy, and excluding them will allow Bennet to promote religious Zionist rabbis in to position of power, after the Haredi have done there best to exclude them and monopolize control over religious authorities. As long as he is in government, especially in one that is dependent on him, no Palestinian state could be formed anyway.

That is not what I meant, I was saying about a coalition between the Haredi, Jewish Home and Likud-Beitenu. They would love a hawkish foreign policy and Bennet would give up of the universal draft stuff.

Besides of that impossible reality, what is the probability of UTJ entering government after some years?
I heard that UTJ was willing to create a faction with the JH and then they have given up...

Regarding Yesh Atid, I might be once more totally wrong but I think it will fall just like Kadima... And I can see Kadima merging with Yesh Atid.

LOL Imagine that = Kadima + Hatnuah + Yesh Atid => New Centrist Party (National Responsability?) 27 Seats
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